lhotse Posted November 13, 2013 Share #1 Posted November 13, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi all, I am wondering if anyone could post their experiences shooting the M8/M9/MM/ME etc with the LCD covered. Zhou has what looks like a nice case which covers the LCD completely. The purist in me thinks that this would be great, but I'm not sure how practical it would be ultimately - I can deal with Auto-ISO when shooting on the street but are there any other issues I should be aware of? All thoughts / advise / abuse greatly appreciated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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250swb Posted November 13, 2013 Share #2 Posted November 13, 2013 I just think that if you have information available it should be used. You don't get points awarded for not using a histogram etc., it doesn't make the photograph any better and you just look foolish if you blow the highlights. Ultimately it will lead to very safe and dull photography because exposures will be based on fear of over exposure and any small improving tweaks to the composition will be overlooked. Digital photography creates the possibility for more 'keepers' than film for the same amount of exposures simply because of the ability to see what you are doing as you go along, to think about things and have another go. I can't see how hiding all that useful information behind a leather wall would aid creativity but I can see how it would stifle it. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted November 13, 2013 Share #3 Posted November 13, 2013 I like to use my computer without a screen, I don't cover it in a leather case though, I just threw it away. Insteed I jusy tpye away 7 hit the print scren buttom every now & then, makes it lilk an old fahsioned type rriter! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted November 13, 2013 Share #4 Posted November 13, 2013 I like to use my computer without a screen, I don't cover it in a leather case though, I just threw it away. Insteed I jusy tpye away 7 hit the print scren buttom every now & then, makes it lilk an old fahsioned type rriter! Don't you cover the screen on your iPhone when dialling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcg Posted November 13, 2013 Share #5 Posted November 13, 2013 "The implied pejorative [in the term 'chimping'] is shocking to me. If there's any one thing that is revolutionary in the advance of photography represented by this digital age, it is the ability to inspect your work. Ignore such ridicule, and use the tools to their fullest." Chimping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia What's wrong with chimping. Seems to me that it is just another basis for some more snobbery and belittlement. Chimp away. The picture is the thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhotse Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share #6 Posted November 13, 2013 Thanks for the replies people - I can clearly see this isn't a popular idea. In defence of covering the LCD - I am all for taking advantage of the ability to 'chimp' when one has the time to re-adjust exposure / composition. However, on the street events often don't unfold that way. More importantly, I do miss the feeling of not knowing if a shot taken during the day came out or not - there is something wonderful about the anticipation associated with 'non-instant-gratification/disappointment' time-scales. Obviously, one could remedy this problem by not looking at the LCD. Unfortunately I simply do not have the self control for that, and as a result I will chimp, check histogram / sharpness, etc - all of which mean I can often miss what is going on around me. The zhou case then becomes a purposeful hinderance to chimping Hopefully that makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcg Posted November 13, 2013 Share #7 Posted November 13, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) More importantly, I do miss the feeling of not knowing if a shot taken during the day came out or not - there is something wonderful about the anticipation associated with 'non-istant-gratification/disappointment' time-scales. I agree with all of this. It's all up to the photographer and how s/he wants to achieve his vision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted November 13, 2013 Share #8 Posted November 13, 2013 Thanks for the replies people - I can clearly see this isn't a popular idea. In defence of covering the LCD - I am all for taking advantage of the ability to 'chimp' when one has the time to re-adjust exposure / composition. However, on the street events often don't unfold that way. More importantly, I do miss the feeling of not knowing if a shot taken during the day came out or not - there is something wonderful about the anticipation associated with 'non-instant-gratification/disappointment' time-scales. Obviously, one could remedy this problem by not looking at the LCD. Unfortunately I simply do not have the self control for that, and as a result I will chimp, check histogram / sharpness, etc - all of which mean I can often miss what is going on around me. The zhou case then becomes a purposeful hinderance to chimping Hopefully that makes sense. An M8 with a broken LCD could be your perfect camera - you could get a bargain! You need to train yourself to chimp less - I tend to check the first shot, then if all is OK I carry on, a bit like using a handheld meter, there's no need to check for every frame if the light hasn't changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 13, 2013 Share #9 Posted November 13, 2013 You can switch it off, can't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyalf Posted November 13, 2013 Share #10 Posted November 13, 2013 I use the Epson RD-1 all the time with LCD turned inwrds, but the digital Ms are not that well designed . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybob Posted November 13, 2013 Share #11 Posted November 13, 2013 My first Nikon D1 came with a Black Plastic clip on screen cover... The screen is your friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted November 13, 2013 Share #12 Posted November 13, 2013 Have you considered wearing a blindfold? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcg Posted November 13, 2013 Share #13 Posted November 13, 2013 Have you considered wearing a blindfold? Like that Pinhole Wizard - sure plays a mean pinhole! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T 1969 Posted November 13, 2013 Share #14 Posted November 13, 2013 I have the LCD turned off so it doesnt light up every shot i take. the only reason being it distracts me and in low light my face would light up. it bothered me. i look if i have to by just going into PLAY mode. Frankly after years of shooting film I don't have the gut instinct to want to look at the image everytime i expose a frame. benefits of being old school i guess i will add i think "chimping" is fine. whatever works for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted November 13, 2013 Share #15 Posted November 13, 2013 Poke out one eye so you see the same as a printed photo. Why self impose a handicap. A perfect exposure make a better print. Perhaps you wish to see if you captured a fleeting moment? Histogram/preview is one of the best things about digital. But feel free to turn it off if you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted November 14, 2013 Share #16 Posted November 14, 2013 If you want to go that route, I would recommend something like the Luigi case with removable flat. Even with the best intentions, there will be occasions when you are taking a portrait of someone in the street or a precisely framed still life etc., and you will appreciate being able to quickly remove the flap over the LCD. I had such a case, removed the flap during week one, and never bothered to put it on again. When I don't want to chimp, I don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted November 19, 2013 Share #17 Posted November 19, 2013 I have the LCD turned off so it doesnt light up every shot i take. the only reason being it distracts me and in low light my face would light up. it bothered me. i look if i have to by just going into PLAY mode. Frankly after years of shooting film I don't have the gut instinct to want to look at the image everytime i expose a frame. benefits of being old school i guess i will add i think "chimping" is fine. whatever works for you. +1. I have the auto review turned off on every digital camera I have owned. So easy to hit "play" if I am in doubt, and have the time to check in-between shots. Otherwise it saves batteries, and in dark surroundings doesn't blind me or bring unwanted attention from others. But since the M9 doesn't have a numbered dial for ISO or to check battery life and remaining card capacity, it would be a hindrance to me to cover the screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatkob Posted November 19, 2013 Share #18 Posted November 19, 2013 You can switch it off, can't you? Exactly. It's just one more useful setting on the camera. I have regretted chimping and I have regretted not chimping. But more often, I have regretted not chimping. The LCD is one of the most useful aspects of a modern camera, and one of the best additions to cameras ever invented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicaMSeattle Posted November 27, 2013 Share #19 Posted November 27, 2013 I switch mine off all the time especially when I am shooting in a darkened arena or theatre where having even a split second of review would be distracting or encouraging mobile phone photography. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted November 29, 2013 Share #20 Posted November 29, 2013 If you shoot using manual settings (as I do) then once exposure has been determined there is no need to use the lcd to check it again until lighting changes necessitate doing so. If you want to check focus or composition or anything else then its easy enough to review on a need to basis. But using a case which covers the lcd completely would drive me to distraction because if and when you need to view the lcd it would mean taking the case off. So I'm with the practical side - its really not such a good idea. [Caveat: I use the neoprene case for my camera and remove it completely when its not required to protect my camera when in a bag or rucksack.] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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