lct Posted April 19, 2015 Share #1041 Posted April 19, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) It can be connected to a gameboy hopefully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Hi lct, Take a look here What do you want in the next digital M?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
cirke Posted April 19, 2015 Share #1042 Posted April 19, 2015 it can just be a modern camera with the best lenses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted April 19, 2015 Share #1043 Posted April 19, 2015 it can just be a modern camera with the best lenses No, it's a Leica M of the 21st century. That means it has a heritage and needs the best of the past, and it also needs the future. That's what the M 240 is, it just needs a few updates to stay current. If you simply want a modern camera that can use the best lenses, get a Sony. It doesn't work that way. Neither the lens resolution nor the sensor resolution is the limiting factor. It is the combination of the two that makes the final image. Put a second-rate lens on a better sensor and the image will improve. Put a better lens on a limited sensor and the image will improve. Sharpness is not an optical parameter, as it cannot be quantified, btw. Resolution and microcontrast are. It is the cause of this confusion. You know full well by sharpness, I really meant resolution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted April 19, 2015 Share #1044 Posted April 19, 2015 M lenses are made for rangefinders so there is little point in basing expections on M lenses if one dislikes rangefinders... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted April 19, 2015 Share #1045 Posted April 19, 2015 M lenses are made for rangefinders so there is little point in basing expections on M lenses if one dislikes rangefinders... they used to be for rangefinder , game is changing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted April 19, 2015 Share #1046 Posted April 19, 2015 Actually, they are still being made for rangefinders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 19, 2015 Share #1047 Posted April 19, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Actually, they are still being made for rangefinders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted April 19, 2015 Share #1048 Posted April 19, 2015 Actually, they are still being made for rangefinders. no, RF is something from the past the 50 AA summicron is ready for something else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 19, 2015 Share #1049 Posted April 19, 2015 no, RF is something from the past the 50 AA summicron is ready for something else No matter how much you wish and hope and stomp your little feet it's still, and always be, a rangefinder style lens. You can put it on something else but it's still designed for rangefinder style bodies. No screwing with adapters and hobbling buy using it on something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted April 19, 2015 Share #1050 Posted April 19, 2015 we shall see, today a RF has no reasons to continue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 19, 2015 Share #1051 Posted April 19, 2015 For you. The rest of the world, however..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 19, 2015 Share #1052 Posted April 19, 2015 For you. The rest of the world, however..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 19, 2015 Share #1053 Posted April 19, 2015 PS: I can think of several hundred thousand reasons for it to continue. Customers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted April 19, 2015 Share #1054 Posted April 19, 2015 no, RF is something from the past the 50 AA summicron is ready for something else Tell me Erick, what did Leica have in mind when they designed this lens? Did they develop this thing for use on the Leica T? Maybe the A7R or the Fuji X series? I still think they designed this lens to be mounted on a Leica M. Be it film or digital. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted April 19, 2015 Share #1055 Posted April 19, 2015 we shall see, today a RF has no reasons to continue Sure about that? It's still the best manual focusing system around. It still gives better situational awareness than either an SLR or an EVF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted April 20, 2015 Share #1056 Posted April 20, 2015 And then there is still the point "stability" (meaning no lock ups) left. After all what has been written in other threats it all looks like these are caused by some FW buck which even Leica can not figure out. Probably we would not have to bare with this issue in a camera kept more simplistic. It is true that new functions may be bugged, but software bugs stay where they are, they don't fly around . So, for example, if video recording is flawed but you do not use it, you don't trigger the bugs in that function. That said, the M240 firmware is already lacking many useful functions and poorly implementing some essential ones. It could hardly be simpler. The fact the software user interface is a random mess and could be far more intuitive, is another story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted April 20, 2015 Share #1057 Posted April 20, 2015 With a iphone-like menu no needs for all these oldish buttons, just a wide high res screen Yes, iphone interface is brilliant, however, interface is a function of user preference as well as device function. There is no doubt some like clean touch screen interface and for them there is already T. Then there are other users who will need old style buttons that give more tactile feedback. I think it is premature to decide what should be the new superior interface.... less/more buttons, touch screen, voice command etc. etc. I remember when digital watch started flooding the market, every new watch had a digital display. Soon people realized that old style dial gave better feedback even in digital and now we are back to the same "old" style dials even in all the modern digital watches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted April 20, 2015 Share #1058 Posted April 20, 2015 [...] I remember when digital watch started flooding the market, every new watch had a digital display. Soon people realized that old style dial gave better feedback even in digital and now we are back to the same "old" style dials even in all the modern digital watches. +1. Excellent comparison. Gameboy cameras are not for everybody and even young people around me do prefer classic controls a la Leica. Reason why the latters are still present in modern cameras like my Fuji X-E2 or Panasonic LX100. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted April 20, 2015 Share #1059 Posted April 20, 2015 Yes, and ten years further even Erick might realize it's time to go back to film and a featureless M-A! [emoji56] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 20, 2015 Share #1060 Posted April 20, 2015 Yes, and ten years further even Erick might realize it's time to go back to film and a featureless M-A! [emoji56] You're being conservative at ten years........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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