lct Posted March 28, 2015 Share #961 Posted March 28, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) One cannot help but wonder how we could live without those gadgets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cirke Posted March 28, 2015 Share #962 Posted March 28, 2015 One cannot help but wonder how we could live without those gadgets.those gadgets are a camera and only a camera to take photos today, for me a range finder is an oldish gadget Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 28, 2015 Share #963 Posted March 28, 2015 for me a range finder is an oldish gadget We belong to different age clases i guess but i'm not sure it is a matter of generations. I myself am a happy nicanojufipanasony user but besides the Epson R-D1, my Leicas are irreplaceable when i don't want to look through a tunnel or a mini TV set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted March 28, 2015 Share #964 Posted March 28, 2015 for the gear I agree 100% with Digiloyd I'm not against technology, I just don't think that most of his wishes would help me take better photos. I would want to see anything that speeds up the vision-to-trigger-to-capture process, which might include: - instant start-up and wake-up (i.e. like an M3!) - fast LV and EVF i.e. real time, no lag. I don't need Digiloyd's higher resolution. - No loss of view when taking shots in LV/EVF. Aspirational and unrealistic? Possibly. But much more useful for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted March 28, 2015 Share #965 Posted March 28, 2015 We belong to different age clases i guess but i'm not sure it is a matter of generations. I myself am a happy nicanojufipanasony user but besides the Epson R-D1, my Leicas are irreplaceable when i don't want to look through a tunnel or a mini TV set.If I could do the same with an iPhone I shall sell my Leica at once... no it's not a matter of generation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted March 28, 2015 Share #966 Posted March 28, 2015 I'm not against technology, I just don't think that most of his wishes would help me take better photos. I would want to see anything that speeds up the vision-to-trigger-to-capture process, which might include: - instant start-up and wake-up (i.e. like an M3!) - fast LV and EVF i.e. real time, no lag. I don't need Digiloyd's higher resolution. - No loss of view when taking shots in LV/EVF. Aspirational and unrealistic? Possibly. But much more useful for me. I agree with you for resolution I want to keep these 24mp or even 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 28, 2015 Share #967 Posted March 28, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Strange: only one item on there that helps you take a good photograph when you might otherwise not: sensor stabilisation. I suspect Digiloyd and I have different agendas. He missed one too: audiohistogram.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted March 28, 2015 Share #968 Posted March 28, 2015 Everybody has his or her wish list. DigiLloyd has an interesting list of "musts", most of which I consider "wants". I do agree on image stablization as long as it can be done without adding bulk (not sure about today but technology does make miniaturization of lots of things possible) I agree with higher res EVF for the times you want it. The rest are meh. Why did he leave off auto sensor dust cleaning? Is it because nearly everybody's (except Leica) already got it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xspider Posted March 28, 2015 Share #969 Posted March 28, 2015 only 3 things - Hybrid VF (Rangefinder + EVF) - + 1 EV usable iso - movable magnifier in EVF happy with the rest as it is... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted March 29, 2015 Share #970 Posted March 29, 2015 only 3 things - Hybrid VF (Rangefinder + EVF) - + 1 EV usable iso - movable magnifier in EVF happy with the rest as it is... I would go along with those ideas. Never mind taking an Olympus EVF and renaming it, how about a complete redesign? The joy for me of the EVF is that the viewfinder has eyesight adjustment. Surely this adjustment capability should be on the rangefinder viewfinder? Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted March 29, 2015 Share #971 Posted March 29, 2015 The joy for me of the EVF is that the viewfinder has eyesight adjustment. Surely this adjustment capability should be on the rangefinder viewfinder? Peter It is, you just screw it in and if you don't need it you don't suffer a loss of quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted March 30, 2015 Share #972 Posted March 30, 2015 For me to invest in a new leica after having gotten into the Sony A7 series cameras it would have to offer quite a few more things than I would have originally needed to get my to upgrade from the M240. Combined RF/EVF Sensor cleaning system. Electronic first shutter when in LV High iso range comparable to Sony A7 Moveable focus spot in LV No black out after taking shot in LV IBIS would be nice though highly unlikely. Dynamic range to equal or better A7 without shadow turning green!! Lighter No bigger Frame rate and the sensor resolution are already fine by and since most of the above are unlikely to happen I will probably stick with my present M240 and it could be the last leica m I invest in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsr Posted April 7, 2015 Share #973 Posted April 7, 2015 In the hopes that we could keep the debate alive and in front our beloved Leica corporate about our requested improvements, I'm offering the following - prioritized - wish list: • No startup time lag (I cannot tell you how many great images I’ve missed waiting for the camera to wake up...I can't get used to it) • Improved low-light/high-ISO performance/dynamic range • Quieter shutter (some SLR’s have far quieter mechanisms and they have a mirror to get out of the way) • Long exposure ability (15-60 seconds is ridiculous) • Base 25-50 ISO • Dual SD card slots for larger cards (for backup and security situations) • Smaller body (Each generation is growing - let’s reverse that trend back to M6 dimensions) • Higher resolution without loss of image quality (only after the above has been addressed because the 240’s IQ is pretty fantastic, in my opinion) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted April 7, 2015 Share #974 Posted April 7, 2015 I agree with the 2 posts above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted April 7, 2015 Share #975 Posted April 7, 2015 In the hopes that we could keep the debate alive and in front our beloved Leica corporate about our requested improvements, I'm offering the following - prioritized - wish list: • No startup time lag (I cannot tell you how many great images I’ve missed waiting for the camera to wake up...I can't get used to it) Not an issue for me because I've gotten into an habit of half pressing to wake the camera up. • Improved low-light/high-ISO performance/dynamic range High ISO would be nice if it does not compromise low ISO dynamic range. Indeed High ISO performance is quite important for a camera which is often used with small aperture hyper focal techniques with fast shutter speed to shoot action. • Quieter shutter (some SLR’s have far quieter mechanisms and they have a mirror to get out of the way) The M240's shutter is already one of the quietest for full frame in the industry. However modern DSLRs like the Canon 6D can match it, with a silent mode that slows down the mirror. But also increases the cameras shutter lag. • Long exposure ability (15-60 seconds is ridiculous) Agreed! For landscape 60 seconds is greatly limiting in terms of water smoothing effects. Another thing we need is the ability to turn off long exposure noise reduction. You lose opportunities with it. During a sunset every minute counts for capturing the perfect and most optimal lighting. Think about shooting fireworks (ie Sydney new years eve). You can miss the perfect shot if you have to wait for the noise reduction. • Higher resolution without loss of image quality (only after the above has been addressed because the 240’s IQ is pretty fantastic, in my opinion) Agreed as Leica's lenses produce far more resolution than 24MP can capture. However, the cost of resolution is weaker high ISO performance. Smaller pixels capture less light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 7, 2015 Share #976 Posted April 7, 2015 Sensor cleaning system equals a 6 mm thicker camera. Do we really want that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 7, 2015 Share #977 Posted April 7, 2015 Black frame noise reduction eliminates noise that cannot be removed any other way. Make it a user selection if desired - but no complaints about noise in that case...., Any serious photographer would welcome the option. Once.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted April 7, 2015 Share #978 Posted April 7, 2015 Sensor cleaning system equals a 6 mm thicker camera. Do we really want that ? Definitely not in my case! But AFAIK Canon's models did not increase in thickness when self-cleaning was added. Though perhaps there was already 6mm of empty/wasted space inside the older models, Idrk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted April 7, 2015 Share #979 Posted April 7, 2015 Sensor cleaning system equals a 6 mm thicker camera. Do we really want that ? If it is impossible to trim the fat aft quarters with those IC cleaning, fat display etc, let's hire a sculptor with a carver and let him/her remove the fat in front Even protruding mount will be better than even a fatter camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 7, 2015 Share #980 Posted April 7, 2015 Definitely not in my case! But AFAIK Canon's models did not increase in thickness when self-cleaning was added. Though perhaps there was already 6mm of empty/wasted space inside the older models, Idrk. It is all because the film Leicas were designed to a minimum thickness with the register distance of the lenses. A DSLR has far more leeway in that respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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