Guest Gilgamesh Posted October 21, 2013 Share #21 Posted October 21, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Mine locks up all the time. Several times a day when I'm caning it. It is not temperature dependant, that's hog-wash as it's below freezing here, minus 12 forecast this evening. Around zero being the daytime temp. Love the "we do not experience this issue here in Germany" lie. You know. I know. This camera is not all it should be and for the price, that's nigh-on criminal. The new firmware seems to have done....., nothing as far as my own shooting tells me. In fact, she locks up more often. With any other manufacturer, you'd have sent her back ages ago and told them what you thought of their malfunctioning, over-price product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted October 21, 2013 Share #22 Posted October 21, 2013 I guess I am not the only one that has had that happen to them.............not happened since my fist though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted October 21, 2013 Share #23 Posted October 21, 2013 Mine locks up all the time. Several times a day when I'm caning it. [...]Love the "we do not experience this issue here in Germany" lie. Well—I'm not "we" but I am in Germany, and I don't experience this issue. 5,000 frames since May. We had hot (but not tropical) temperatures in mid-summer, and now the weather is mild. Last week-end, I filled my 32 GB card in one single night for the first time. Normally, I'm filling it only half-way or less in one outing. So I'm by far not shooting the vast amounts you do, but my camera does get some use. I'm using the regular rangefinder primarily, and live-view (with Olympus VF-2) only occasionally. Updated to FW v2.0.0.11 the day it came out. No lock-ups whatsoever. My only complaint is the absurdly long start-up time from power-off or sleep mode—makes me miss pictures all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etruscello Posted October 21, 2013 Share #24 Posted October 21, 2013 Just FYI: Since initiating the new firmware on Day 1 USA, I have had no lockups, I have tried everything to provoke it. I am happy to have failed. By the way, my M RAW files no longer need any WB work in PP, and red-edge is no longer a problem with the Elmar 24 nor the Zeiss 18mm, as it had been before the new firmware. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted January 6, 2014 Share #25 Posted January 6, 2014 Just wanted to report 2 lockups yesterday: - No EVF mounted. - Battery level > 70%. - 32 GB Samsung SD HC 10, 60% full, all compressed DNG. - Red write light stuck on. Image not saved. - Had to remove battery to power cycle the camera. - Temperature of first one, indoor: 68F ~= 20C - Temperature of second one, outdoor: 37F ~= 3C Therefore, this kind of lockup is not temperature related, and smells more like firmware bug than hw issue. The possibility of lockups being related to the number of files in the SD should be investigated. Hope Leica will soon release a new beta firmware that finally reaches decency levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgc Posted January 6, 2014 Share #26 Posted January 6, 2014 I had my first lock up a few days ago during a relatively mild and dry winter's day in the UK. The battery was probably less than 50% and I had no EVF mounted at the time. I was in the middle of several quickly taken shots for a panoramic image in single shot mode, so I may not have been giving the camera time to process the images and it crashed. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted January 6, 2014 Share #27 Posted January 6, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I may not have been giving the camera time to process the images and it crashed. Therefore the problem here is the user who is faster than the camera. Leica engineers perfectly know that a human cannot be faster than a computer, so they did not account for this supernatural use-case. The solution is simple: users must count to 10 before taking the next photo. Leica could display a countdown timer on the camera display to help fix this human bug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 6, 2014 Share #28 Posted January 6, 2014 Operating temperature: 0-40 degrees Centigrade... What you are seeing is your battery operating at the limit of its temperature tolernce. Mine locks up all the time.Several times a day when I'm caning it. It is not temperature dependant, that's hog-wash as it's below freezing here, minus 12 forecast this evening. Around zero being the daytime temp. Love the "we do not experience this issue here in Germany" lie. You know. I know. This camera is not all it should be and for the price, that's nigh-on criminal. The new firmware seems to have done....., nothing as far as my own shooting tells me. In fact, she locks up more often. With any other manufacturer, you'd have sent her back ages ago and told them what you thought of their malfunctioning, over-price product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted January 6, 2014 Share #29 Posted January 6, 2014 Operating temperature: 0-40 degrees Centigrade... What you are seeing is your battery operating at the limit of its temperature tolernce. False. What he is seeing is a defective product that locks up regardless of the temperature, as many forum users have reported. Dismissing this issue with the "operating temperature" and other ridiculous excuses, is adding insult to injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 6, 2014 Share #30 Posted January 6, 2014 Is it? Minus twelve at night, below zero at daytime. Read any digital camera forum... (And the product specs.) This is different from other lockups reported in this thread. And elsewhere. If your product is defective, send it in for repair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted January 6, 2014 Share #31 Posted January 6, 2014 Is it? Minus twelve at night, below zero at daytime. Read any digital camera forum... (And the manual.) Are you kidding me ? My camera (and not only) locks up at 20 Celsius. Besides, even crappy $50 P&S cameras don't crash at freezing temperatures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 6, 2014 Share #32 Posted January 6, 2014 Oh yes, they do, maybe a bit slower because of the insulating plastic. I'm not sure Silicon Valley is the right place to build up experience about low-temperature behaviour of cameras btw. Most Ms do not lock up at room temperatures. Mine doesn't. If belonged to the minority that does, it would be spending its time on the operating table in Solms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted January 6, 2014 Share #33 Posted January 6, 2014 Are you kidding me ? My camera (and not only) locks up at 20 Celsius.Besides, even crappy $50 P&S cameras don't crash at freezing temperatures. You are responding to a post which Jaap wrote in reply to another post by Gilgamesh which did mention temperatures below freezing. No kidding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 6, 2014 Share #34 Posted January 6, 2014 ...The solution is simple: users must count to 10 before taking the next photo... Ouch! It is a Leica my friend. Remember the decisive moment? I will have shot five pics in the meantime. You don't have to count at all and you camera should not lock up either. Mine doesn't BTW... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 6, 2014 Share #35 Posted January 6, 2014 Ouch! It is a Leica my friend. Remember the decisive moment? I will have shot five pics in the meantime. You don't have to count at all and you camera should not lock up either. Mine doesn't BTW... +1 No lock ups here either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 6, 2014 Share #36 Posted January 6, 2014 Just installed the new firmware and 1/2 hour later had my first lock up while using the EVF........had to pull the battery to fix it:mad:Best thing to do is to disable auto-switchoff and switch on and off manually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 6, 2014 Share #37 Posted January 6, 2014 No lock ups on this particular example and since I sold all five of my other ones that did have innumerable lockups this past Summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted January 6, 2014 Share #38 Posted January 6, 2014 No lock ups on this particular example and since I sold all five of my other ones that did have innumerable lockups this past Summer. I haven't got any lockups for three monts, until yesterday. I believe this particular non-EVF lockup has more to do with software than hardware. Is there anyone here who sent the camera to Solms because of lockups ? Did it come back fixed ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted January 6, 2014 Share #39 Posted January 6, 2014 Ouch! It is a Leica my friend. Remember the decisive moment? I will have shot five pics in the meantime. You don't have to count at all and you camera should not lock up either. Of course. I was being ironic... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 6, 2014 Share #40 Posted January 6, 2014 Sorry i missed it but when you've got your lock up issue, were you in LV or Classic mode? Just curious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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