MarkP Posted October 12, 2013 Share #21 Posted October 12, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) How very depressing, my sympathies. BTW what lenses were stolen? So hopefully you are insured. This comes up every time someone has a camera stolen or damaged. Many household policies cover personal effects (that do not have to be listed separately) throughout the country so perhaps you may be OK. My policy covers all of my equipment (3 bodies and 12 lenses anywhere in Australia) and for up to $30,000 for overseas travel (unless I specify and take extra cover for more). All for under $1000 per year extra on my domestic insurance policy. One should insure whatever one cannot afford to replace. Having said all that, it is always easy to be clever in retrospect. I also never leave my camera equipment in the car. The other issue of course is that even if insured it can take ages for Leica to supply replacement items. my commiserations, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ulev Posted October 12, 2013 Share #22 Posted October 12, 2013 A photographers nightmare !!! Very sorry to hear. Unfortunately it's very expensive to have your gear insured, if not impossible ! I rarely leave my M system in the car, even for shopping for groceries I carry it with me. I drive a 12 year old VW stationwagon, and that kinda "helps" as well. Not so tempting off course. I hope you manage to recover your gear/ get compensated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted October 12, 2013 Share #23 Posted October 12, 2013 So sorry to hear of your loss. Insurance is essential.And, while I never leave gear in my car (even when I pay for fuel), I made sure my policy covered unattended items in car. Hope you manage to track it down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted October 12, 2013 Share #24 Posted October 12, 2013 Jesus what a loss! Can't you publish the serial numbers of camera and lenses somewhere, for instance this forum, so that the items can be recognized as stolen? I thought Leica had something like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted October 12, 2013 Share #25 Posted October 12, 2013 Unbelievable. I'm am truly gutted and sorry to hear your circumstances. I can only imagine what that must feel like. :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted October 12, 2013 Share #26 Posted October 12, 2013 I know how you feel ... I looked away for 20 SECONDS and a thief snatched my bag from under the table in Barcelona at a Starbucks near Sagrada Familia. One body + 4 lenses and I wasn't insured back then :/ You should publish information on the serial numbers of the body and the lenses. The kind people here will watch out for you + you should alert Leica in case the items are sent in for service/repairs/CLA by an unsuspecting new owner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaphilia Posted October 12, 2013 Share #27 Posted October 12, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) My condolences. That really sucks. hopefully you can track down some of your things. But the Leica and lenses, that SUCKS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted October 12, 2013 Share #28 Posted October 12, 2013 Rest stops are some of the most dangerous places to actually rest..And it doesn't matter if you are in the car either... They can still get you..[/QUOT We don`t sleep there. We only use the big ones on the toll roads in daylight hours. Even then, one at a time, or if we leave the car, valuables go too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andi_77 Posted October 12, 2013 Author Share #29 Posted October 12, 2013 Thanks a lot to all of you. Unfortunately the camera and lenses weren't insured (my experiences with insurance companies in Italy are awful, and I've never managed to find a decent insurance for my photographic gear). The iPad is untraceable, and that is a shame because it is probably where the rest of the stolen things are... On Monday I will find out whether the company car insurance covers the stolen items, but I'm afraid it doesn't... I've already filed a... "denuncia" (sorry, I don't know the translation) with the Police, and with the help of Newoldcamera, the store where I bought the M9, and Ryu, the extremely nice owner, we will manage to list my M9 as stolen. The serial number - in case someone sees it around, but I'm afraid it's unlikely - is 03835473. The lenses were: - a Zeiss 35mm f/2 ZM - a Canon 50mm f/1.4 - a Leica Tele-Elmarit 90mm f/2.8 I will post the serial number of the first two later on, but unfortunately I've never written down the serial number of the Leica lens (I've bought it on eBay but you can't read the serial number in the auction photos). I don't know, if the car insurance doesn't cover the loss, I guess I will buy another camera and lenses, but it's such a painful thing... Anyway.... Thanks again for your help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted October 12, 2013 Share #30 Posted October 12, 2013 Welcome to a distinguished club. Sorry for your loss. I had an M-9, MacBook Pro and a bag of lenses stolen a while back. My insurance covered it. First, send an email to Leica in Germany giving them the list and serial numbers. Next, report it stolen on Stolencamerafinder.com. It's free. If someone posts pics on the internet it will pop up. They have a paid version but a tad pricey. Best of luck in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted October 12, 2013 Share #31 Posted October 12, 2013 Andi, that is a gut-wrenching story. So sorry for you. As I read it I thought that sort of theft was commonplace when I lived in Italy. You don't say where the crime took place. But in Southern Italy such crimes were to be expected. Once again, don't ever leave anything of value in a car. But stripping out inbuilt nav-aids is really audacious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andi_77 Posted October 12, 2013 Author Share #32 Posted October 12, 2013 Tortona, one hour away from Milan... But believe me, I lived in several European countries and - more or less... - this type of crime is unfortunately common everywhere. There are exceptions, obviously, and different crime levels (and in Italy it's unfortunately high), but I'm afraid there's no such thing as a safe place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted October 12, 2013 Share #33 Posted October 12, 2013 I always wanted a Leica.I bought a used M9 one month ago. Then tonight, while driving towards the seaside to take some pictures during the weekend, I parked my car for ten minutes at a rest stop. For TEN MINUTES. When I got back to the car, the following things were missing: - half of the car dashboard (integrated sat nav, car stereo, climate controls, "iDrive" joystick) - all the things that were in the boot (not visible from outside): my backpack with my MacBook Air (not mine, but from the office... even worse to some extent), a bag with clothes and an iPad and... above all... my Ona bag with the M9, 3 lenses and accessories F__k. Sorry, but there's no other word. The a__hole didn't even understand what that tube-shaped bag was, and left it there, so now I'm still owner of a Manfrotto carbon tripod and a Gitzo ball head. The thing is... I don't have a camera to attach to it anymore. The car is a company car. I'm not sure the insurance will cover the cost of the M9 and lenses. And the iPad can't be tracked (my only hope to find the a__hole who did this). F__k. Bunch of fu$%#$# theaving Bast$%#@ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indina Posted October 12, 2013 Share #34 Posted October 12, 2013 Don't allow the loss of material things to destroy any of your dreams. You are safe, that is much more important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelajisp Posted October 12, 2013 Share #35 Posted October 12, 2013 I had a Nikon stolen from my car in Geneva, CH several years ago. It was an office car and the insurance did cover it.The important thing that we did was to go to the local police station and report the theft. We then submitted that to the office HR folks Good Luck Sanjay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted October 12, 2013 Share #36 Posted October 12, 2013 Bad luck, I hope you can rescue something, keep your chin up. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest borge Posted October 13, 2013 Share #37 Posted October 13, 2013 Well, as sad as this is, it happens daily, all over the world. Rule of thumb is: Never, not even for a few minutes, leave something in the car that you are not willing to loose while parking. I hope your insurance covers it. But usually car insurance only covers items up to a certain low cost, not anywhere near the price range that you need to be covered for. I hope you had insurance on the photo gear itself. It's a must-have if you travel around with expensive equipment, and definitely worth the cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob139 Posted October 13, 2013 Share #38 Posted October 13, 2013 Very sad to hear, good luck on recovering either insurance or the camera and lenses. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael-IIIf Posted October 13, 2013 Share #39 Posted October 13, 2013 Rule of thumb is: Never, not even for a few minutes, leave something in the car that you are not willing to loose while parking. Logical advice but not always practical. I frequently drive across continental Europe, on such journeys one has to stop for petrol and food, the car is full of possessions often including Leicas, MacBooks and iPads. Of course it's a target and the logical advice would be to take everything with you every time but it just can't be done. And the end of the day it is an awful kick in the nuts but it is only stuff. Andi, your dream is not over it's just had a setback, a major setback no doubt but it is only a setback not a termination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted October 13, 2013 Share #40 Posted October 13, 2013 I think the OP is well aware of what circumstances could have been should another path be taken. Lets not rub salt into the wound for the poor fella. Fact remains: You should be able to leave your property wherever you like, particularly in a locked car, without risk of a break and enter. Without risk of becoming a victim of crime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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