The Sony A7 thread [Merged]

[CaptZoom]

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In any case I'll do what I want, thank you

 

It's be pretty weird if you didn't:)

[lct]

There is no point in keeping your M if you don't need a rangefinder obviously.

[cirke]

There is no point in keeping your M if you don't need a rangefinder obviously.

I agree totally , but I love M lenses and a small 24x36

[Rick]

Why worry about it? you like RF cameras ? I am happy for you

 

Me Worry? - Alfred E. Neumann

 

You are the one with the case of worry. And, you miss quoted me... you left out the part about the peanuts.

 

What I mean is, either you get the RF or you don't. But, I don't think it makes sense to keep your Leica lenses if, you want to use the EVF and the Sony. Just sell your Leica lenses and move over to a complete Sony system (such as it is or isn't). Leica M lenses and Sony FF EVF don't make sense.

[cirke]

Leica M lenses and Sony FF EVF don't make sense.

M lenses are very good if not better on Sony NEX , it makes a lot of sense to keep them

[Rick]

M lenses are very good if not better on Sony NEX , it makes a lot of sense to keep them

 

No, they aren't better on the NEX and they aren't coupled. The Sony sensor isn't designed for the lenses. And, the NEX isn't FF like your M. Why would you ever stick them on the NEX when you have the M? Oh, that's right... you like the EVF. Which is fine, for you. But, the M lenses will not work as well as they do on your M.

[jaapv]

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A Sony is very easy to use, I had and sold a NEX 6

This Sony FF is the camera I was waiting for , cheaper and better than the M 240 , with AF lenses , and body stabilization, and I can use my Summilux and Summicron lenses with a ring

 

I'm very happy for you that a non-existing camera does all that for you. However, I was talking about taking photographs, not playing with gear. Anybody can learn how to push buttons within the hour. If you post you only use the EVF you have obviously not mastered your present camera yet.

[insomnia]

I'm very happy for you that a non-existing camera does all that for you. However, I was talking about taking photographs, not playing with gear. Anybody can learn how to push buttons within the hour. If you post you only use the EVF you have obviously not mastered your present camera yet.

 

Oh yeah, now we're getting to the "this and that is real photography and how you have to use your camera" talk again. If you don't want to fiddle with your camera adjustment on the tripod and instead use live-view - just playing around. If you don't want to learn for ages how your lens with field curvature or focus shift behaves and want to use live-view to speed up the process - just a silly toy, learn it for ages then! Even using Auto-ISO to speed things up (and to get to the exact same result) is obviously not how you master your camera.

 

Btw. what is there to master from M9 to M? If you learned to be cautious with the M9 you will have no issues with the exposure with the M. It comes to postprocessing (colour) and finding new "max usable ISO/pushing treatment" only, if you stick with the basic functionality.

 

@Rick How would you know it won't behave equally to the M? It obviously isn't performing too great with wide angles either (yet, however). With a perfected peaking mode (without magnification) and a high enough frame rate in EVF a Sony could be an adequate solution for me.

 

I guess most of you would be excited if the same camera came from Solms. But first see, if and what comes from Sony.

[cirke]

you can turn it as you like it will be the perfect body for many M lenses users ... --> http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/07/31/so-who-is-ready-for-that-full-frame-sony-nex/

[jaapv]

A Sony is very easy to use, I had and sold a NEX 6

This Sony FF is the camera I was waiting for , cheaper and better than the M 240 , with AF lenses , and body stabilization, and I can use my Summilux and Summicron lenses with a ring

 

Possibly; we'll see when- if - it arrives The current NEX cameras are OK for R lenses, less so for M. I think this would be far more pronounced for a hypothetical full frame one.

[cirke]

The current NEX cameras are OK for R lenses, less so for M. I think this would be far more pronounced for a hypothetical full frame one.

Maybe not for wide angles but for 50 , 90, 135 mm it works very well

[lct]

Leica will be more than happy to sell lenses to Sony users i guess. I would not expect any problem with 50mm lenses and on but wides could indeed be another story.

[jaapv]

Oh yeah, now we're getting to the "this and that is real photography and how you have to use your camera" talk again. If you don't want to fiddle with your camera adjustment on the tripod and instead use live-view - just playing around. If you don't want to learn for ages how your lens with field curvature or focus shift behaves and want to use live-view to speed up the process - just a silly toy, learn it for ages then! Even using Auto-ISO to speed things up (and to get to the exact same result) is obviously not how you master your camera.

 

Btw. what is there to master from M9 to M? If you learned to be cautious with the M9 you will have no issues with the exposure with the M. It comes to postprocessing (colour) and finding new "max usable ISO/pushing treatment" only, if you stick with the basic functionality.

 

@Rick How would you know it won't behave equally to the M? It obviously isn't performing too great with wide angles either (yet, however). With a perfected peaking mode (without magnification) and a high enough frame rate in EVF a Sony could be an adequate solution for me.

 

I guess most of you would be excited if the same camera came from Solms. But first see, if and what comes from Sony.

Ah yes, the old dichotomy; gear over image or image over gear.

Technique is easy with a new camera. The following part is the crux.

[dwbell]

Ah yes, the old dichotomy; gear over image or image over gear.

Technique is easy with a new camera. The following part is the crux.

 

I don't accept the premiss. It is both art and craft.

 

The easiest and most oft used way to dodge serious conversation of either, on forums, is to invoke the other. I find it a sad reflection on the internet photography ecosystem.

[jaapv]

If I read my post I only see a statement, no invocation.... In fact your post echoes mine, linking the two aspects.

[cirke]

I find the reaction of some members as aggressive as soccer fan

[skuromis]

you can turn it as you like it will be the perfect body for many M lenses users ... --> So who is ready for that full frame Sony NEX? | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS

 

Just without the AF Have fun with whatever camera.

[kdriceman]

But, the M lenses will not work as well as they do on your M.

 

Rick

 

Of course, as others have mentioned... We don't know yet because the Nex FF hasn't arrived. You're probably correct though, but that's not really the point. I use my M lenses on my Nex because they are great lenses - better than anything I can get from Sony so far. And there are many things that the Nex does better than the M... And it's lighter and less expensive. Erick won't be the only one on the forum to begin questioning if the rangefinder experience is worth the extra $$'s, especially those of us who own other rangefinders and can get our rf fix without dropping $7,000 on the M240.

 

'Just Sayin...

[krooj]

erick,

 

Just do the community a favour and sell your M240 body here once you get your NEX-FF

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[douglasf13]

Some photographers demand a rangefinder, and the M240 makes perfect sense for that group. Others just want a small FF system, and the new Sony makes perfect sense for that group. It's not a big deal. Granted, I don't think M lenses wider than 50mm, and maybe even including 50mm, will perform as well on the Sony as they do on the M240, in terms of both smearing and color shift. It'll be great for R lenses, either way.