albertwang Posted July 24, 2006 Share #1 Posted July 24, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) For me, my trusty M6 works in freezing cold weather. I'm afraid that the Digital M will fail to function before the M6 stops working. The other reason is the crop factor. I'm afraid I will have a hard time shooting 50mm with a 75mm view... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest zwicko Posted July 24, 2006 Share #2 Posted July 24, 2006 Albert: relax, wait and see. Might be as good and reliable as all the other Ms (there are exeptions to the rule, I know). Personally I am not interested in digital photography - so the digiM won´t raise my attention at all. I´ll stick to my MP and medium format gear. Zwicko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted July 24, 2006 Share #3 Posted July 24, 2006 Albert, of all the things to worry about, this takes the biscuit. I suspect that in really cold weather you would stop working before the M8. Personally, I am more concerned that it will not be able to be used as a bottle opener. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgcd Posted July 24, 2006 Share #4 Posted July 24, 2006 For me, my trusty M6 works in freezing cold weather. I'm afraid that the Digital M will fail to function before the M6 stops working. The other reason is the crop factor. I'm afraid I will have a hard time shooting 50mm with a 75mm view... Albert - The thing is not even out yet! Why don't we wait and see?!! Just as it was the case with the DMR, I am sure they will indeed get it right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert Posted July 24, 2006 Share #5 Posted July 24, 2006 Bill......that was very funny.........Don't Worry (Albert) Be Happy....Albert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted July 24, 2006 Share #6 Posted July 24, 2006 you gotta laugh... Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidigital Posted July 24, 2006 Share #7 Posted July 24, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I spent quite a bit of time with my DMR outdoors this past winter. This includes a few days outdoors in temperatures at -20 degrees Fahrenheit. I encountered no issues at all. I'm expecting the M8 to be quite the product and am at the top of my favorite dealer's list. Kurt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted July 24, 2006 Share #8 Posted July 24, 2006 The main reason not to buy an M8 is because you will not be able to. I expect demand to far outstrip supply for many months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemeng Posted July 24, 2006 Share #9 Posted July 24, 2006 The other reason is the crop factor. I'm afraid I will have a hard time shooting 50mm with a 75mm view... Er, so you mount a 35mm lens instead to get a "47mm view". Hardly rocket science :?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalker Posted July 24, 2006 Share #10 Posted July 24, 2006 The crop factor is the most important issue for me. It forces us to get used to unused perspectives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted July 24, 2006 Share #11 Posted July 24, 2006 Albert has a very good point. There are other reasons not to buy an M8. For me it is that I simply may not be able to afford one this year! As to working in the cold, where on earth do you intend to use it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 24, 2006 Share #12 Posted July 24, 2006 The crop factor is the most important issue for me. It forces us to get used to unused perspectives. You're right, using a 28mm lens like a 35mm or a 40mm may be surprising sometimes but you'll get accostumed to it with a bit of practice, like i did with the R-D1. Albert, no problem when using a 50mm like a 75mm IMHO. Great to use a 75 that small and light you can trust me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 24, 2006 Share #13 Posted July 24, 2006 For me, my trusty M6 works in freezing cold weather. I'm afraid that the Digital M will fail to function before the M6 stops working. Simple. Take your M6 when it's sub-zero (degrees F) and your M8 at all other times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gberger Posted July 24, 2006 Share #14 Posted July 24, 2006 I still have Kodachrome slides I shot in 1941 (Argus camera). That's 65 years ago. I can just look at them on a light table or with a 50mm lens as a loupe - - or even a drugstore magnifying glass. With digital, how cam anyone be certain that an image you take today will still be available to your grandchildren in 2071 - - - and not need esoteric computers / projectors to view it ? George (The Old Fud) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbesz Posted July 24, 2006 Share #15 Posted July 24, 2006 "For me, my trusty M6 works in freezing cold weather. I'm afraid that the Digital M will fail to function before the M6 stops working" Albert, people use digital cameras in the Antarctic. You need not worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george + Posted July 25, 2006 Share #16 Posted July 25, 2006 On the other hand, I am looking forward to an M8 because I have not shot film in almost a decade but miss the quality of the images and the quality of a Leica M instrument. And I have little use for autofocus and need a better view. The lenses should be no problem except the expense of having to buy a new wide angle lens. Ugh. And I sure hope it will work like many of us imagine it will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prince_alfie Posted July 25, 2006 Share #17 Posted July 25, 2006 Actually it's not the fact that I'm worried that Digital M will function in cold weather. It's the battery life that I'm concerned about when I'm in subfreezing temperature. (Travelling to Russia and Tashkent, Uzbekistan during next winter...) Lithium batteries are great and all that but a dead Digital M during a hike is bad, bad, bad. So the M6 is better for travel. Plus less things to worry about. the conversion of the charger will be heavy enough and for me, film will be easier to deal with. The wide angle is another issue. I still think that the crop factor isn't so noticeable on the SLR as much. But on the rangefinder it makes a difference to me. I shoot a lot of hyperfocal and for me, banging shots at the hip and finding that most of shots are cropped too tightly is bad. And the M has a history of street photography use but the inability to "predict" what you are shooting isn't helpful to me when you already have the habit with the framelines on a regular film M. Sorry to bust the bubble. I may try the Epson RF for fun but for serious business, I still prefer my M6 here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted July 25, 2006 Share #18 Posted July 25, 2006 I think your argument about power is more valid than the one about crop factor. You can pretty much solve the crop factor by shooting with a lens 1 step wider focal length and 1 stop wider open. As for power, I'd certainly like to see an auxiliary batter pack which, say, attaches to the bottom of the camera, a bit like a winder and which takes a variety of batteries - Li Ion, AA, CR123 so that you have a backup. Think also about the benefit of being able to check your shots before you leave. You might not go back to Tashkent for a long time and it would be bad to get home and find you'd left the lens cap on for the entire vacation... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted July 25, 2006 Share #19 Posted July 25, 2006 "banging shots at the hip" is so yesterday and a cliche to boot. It is in the same company of the shoot at a angle and get a real candid photo, retro crap overdone and unnecessary. People use all sorts of digitals in wars, streets, farms, showers, bedrooms, under the sheets etc and with superb results if they are capable. The bottom line is if you want one and cannot afford or you don't want one...these are good reasons not to buy the digital M ps I am completing a kitchen refit first, my wife told me so..... that's it until next year no M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
twom4 Posted July 25, 2006 Share #20 Posted July 25, 2006 Bill, My M4s can open bottles if I try hard enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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