jaapv Posted September 10, 2013 Share #41 Posted September 10, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) No -it is mechanical. All R-M adapters are mechanical as an M mount has no electrical contacts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hejenk Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share #42 Posted September 10, 2013 Then get one from the UK who has them and enjoy R lenses on your M. I've just checked and ordered with Speed Graphic and they are coded - although nothing new is shown on the Novoflex website! Leica must be losing customers if they continue with this deafening silence .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 10, 2013 Share #43 Posted September 10, 2013 But how are they coded? I've seen three variations now and only two work.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejenk Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share #44 Posted September 10, 2013 I showed them thighslapper's image (#13) and they confirmed that the adapter had 'the markings as pictured'! Now to wait and see what arrives. Seems like we are in Alice in Wonderland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted September 10, 2013 Share #45 Posted September 10, 2013 Ken-Does that Novoflex adapter use any electronics chip or is it just a simple adapter? Also how do you get the camera to work if it is looking for a lens. I have a 5D3 and would not mind trying to use an R lens on it from time to time. I just heard that some adapters have caused MAJOR problems with cameras including frying some of the internals. Thanks. Hello Algrove. No the Novoflex is just a simple adapter but beautifully made. ( made in Germany) so only the best for my R lenses, still much cheaper then the R to M adapter. Just couple the lens onto the Canon body, set to AV, focus and shoot, you will get most of the information In the viewfinder except aperture settings of your lenses, remember it's step down metering, I do not have any problems as now I am used to it and now have mastered it. There is NO ELECTRIC CONECTIONS on the Novoflex adapter EOS-LER. Leica Rom lenses electric contacts are on top, Canons are on the bottom the two don't meet. Remember if you decide to buy the Novoflex adapter, there is two versions. The older one has a round lens release tab, to remove lens from body you need to release the adapter and lens from Canon body, a nuisance if you have several lenses. On the newer one the lens release tab is flat, much easier to interchange lenses (as shown on image) the adapter can be left on the Canon body, so only one adapter is required. Ken. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/212184-waiting-for-the-r-to-m-adapter/?do=findComment&comment=2417610'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted September 10, 2013 Share #46 Posted September 10, 2013 But how are they coded? I've seen three variations now and only two work.... I've looked at mine under high magnification.... The white panel is recessed and has a 'hatched' texture and is filled with a reflective silver paint. Lokks like it's made to last .... The drilled pits seem to have no function except possibly something to do with the manufacture/marking process.... or as you say possibly to avoid infringeing a Leica patent etc, although one of the reasons Novoflex are expensive is because they officially licence use of the various manufacturers mounts, unlike some other makers..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted September 10, 2013 Share #47 Posted September 10, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) But how are they coded? I've seen three variations now and only two work.... In a few more hours I will be able to confirm if mine works with the white strip. Got it in my hands just this minute. Here's what happens when you power on the M with the coded Novoflex one white paint line adapter, i.e. there are no black cuts-only matte looking paint over the 6 bit code area and then a white strip in position 3: 1. Nothing until you hit Menu button. 2. The first line of the Menu is Lens Detection. You will find it has already been set to Manual. 3. Hit set while Lens Detection is highlighted. 4. Hit set while Manual is highlighted. (As mentioned in #2 above the coded adapter forces the camera to Manual Lens Detection.) 5. You will now see the list of R lenses to choose from. 6. Pick your R lens from the list and press set. 7. Let out a cheer since you finally have a coded R-M adapter that works right out of the plastic box Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman Posted September 10, 2013 Share #48 Posted September 10, 2013 Are you fellows saying that the drilled pits serve NO PURPOSE?? I thought they stood in for black lines in the Leica coding practice --- I was planning on drilling out my Jin flanges which worked well on the M9 and not at all on the M. What do you fellows think about doing this?? Will it work?? Thanks for the (educated) guesses..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted September 10, 2013 Share #49 Posted September 10, 2013 Are you fellows saying that the drilled pits serve NO PURPOSE?? I thought they stood in for black lines in the Leica coding practice --- I was planning on drilling out my Jin flanges which worked well on the M9 and not at all on the M. What do you fellows think about doing this?? Will it work?? Thanks for the (educated) guesses..... Before doing that try a white strip in the #3 position. Best if you can have the entire 6 bit area painted with matte black paint before the white going on top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted September 10, 2013 Share #50 Posted September 10, 2013 Are you fellows saying that the drilled pits serve NO PURPOSE?? I thought they stood in for black lines in the Leica coding practice --- I was planning on drilling out my Jin flanges which worked well on the M9 and not at all on the M. What do you fellows think about doing this?? Will it work?? Thanks for the (educated) guesses..... Black is black ..... whether drilled, milled, painted or whatever...... as long as it's non reflective and really black it doesn't matter. Try as I might, I cannot think of any other point in coding an R-M adapter except to bring up the R lens menu on an M....... one white stripe is all you need ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted September 11, 2013 Share #51 Posted September 11, 2013 As long as it's non-reflective ... That's the point. In a glossy black surface, drilled pits provide shadows which are blacker than (shiny) black. In a matte-black surface, pits are not required. On the white strip of current Novoflex LEM/xxx adapters, even the grey of a simple pencil is black enough ... and won't wear off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman Posted September 12, 2013 Share #52 Posted September 12, 2013 To be clear, I am trying to get new Jin flanges on my 35,50 & 90 mm old lenses to read on the M. They work well on the M9 but not on the M and I suspect the 6 bit grooves are too narrow and\or short. So, would drilling some holes like the Novoflex allow the M to read these lenses?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted September 12, 2013 Share #53 Posted September 12, 2013 To be clear, I am trying to get new Jin flanges on my 35,50 & 90 mm old lenses to read on the M. They work well on the M9 but not on the M and I suspect the 6 bit grooves are too narrow and\or short. So, would drilling some holes like the Novoflex allow the M to read these lenses?? If you look at the M sensor it is now curved rather than straight, and I suspect most problems arise from white strips/unpainted bits overlapping adjacent sensors and showing up as 'non black' The white patches need only be tiny to register, the black in contrast needs to be dense, flat and non reflective. In those M lenses with chrome/bare metal flanges I have just milled out and painted the black bits, the metal is reflective enough to work. Doesn't matter if the black bits are a bit too big..... as long as there is a small bit of 'white' on the sensor panels where required. I'm not clear why my Novoflex has drilled holes..... as they are on a black anodised background already you would think they would be unnecessary ..... and they are also rather small to work properly. I think my previous few occasions where the adapter failed to register were due to not clicking it full into place rather than reflections from the adapter..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted September 12, 2013 Share #54 Posted September 12, 2013 Just to be clear, my Novoflex adapter I just received 2 days ago has no holes drilled in the black areas. It has matte black paint along the entire 6 bit area with one white strip in the #3 position and that's all. Works like charm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted September 12, 2013 Share #55 Posted September 12, 2013 Very interesting! Mine looks like this: Got the white stripe in right position but I'm missing the drilled holes , unfortunately it does not get detected by the M either. Sorry for poor picture quality (iPhone) How do you know it did not get detected by your M? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted September 12, 2013 Share #56 Posted September 12, 2013 Just to be clear, my Novoflex adapter I just received 2 days ago has no holes drilled in the black areas. It has matte black paint along the entire 6 bit area with one white strip in the #3 position and that's all. Works like charm .... we are obviously watching evolution at work..... Novoflex make no mention of 'now coded for the M' .... so the coding is a bonus as far as they are concerned ..... and perhaps we are unwittingly acting as guinea-pigs with a succession of prototype versions.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted September 12, 2013 Share #57 Posted September 12, 2013 How do you know it did not get detected by your M? ..... and the white bar in MMX's photo looks too wide to me..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted September 12, 2013 Share #58 Posted September 12, 2013 My white bar works. I will take a photo of it later tonight and post it if time allows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted September 13, 2013 Share #59 Posted September 13, 2013 I've found an ancient roll of 12mm Scotch 850 silver polyester tape that I had used in the past to crop/mask slides. A sliver of this tape on the lens is thin enough not to interfere with lens mounting, and a DVD marker pen works perfectly on the tape for coding marks. This has worked perfectly for my 1.0/50 Noctilux and for the Andrea Lolli R-to-M adapter neither of which were recognised by the M as having a lens mounted. Which idiot in Leica didn't allow for manual setting for unrecognised lens mounts? Still waiting for the R to M adapter...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejenk Posted September 13, 2013 Author Share #60 Posted September 13, 2013 I've just received my Novoflex LEM/LER which is coded as per thighslapper's #13. It works perfectly with my R lenses. What is also interesting is that I also received the LEM/CONT which is for Contax/Yashica mounts. This just has a white strip so I have coded it to bring up the R menu (Zeiss Contax Vario-Sonnar 28-85 etc.) and this works perfectly as well. Oh why oh why have not Leica been able to bring out their R-M adapter ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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