stump4545 Posted July 6, 2013 Share #1 Posted July 6, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) this lens is so tiny, will i be sorry for not using a lens hood with this tiny gem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Hi stump4545, Take a look here lens hood a must on 35mm cron v4?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Michael Geschlecht Posted July 6, 2013 Share #2 Posted July 6, 2013 Hello stump4545, Rigid lens hoods are used primarily to protect lenses from inadvertant impact & damage. Flare suppression is a secondary benefit. It is a lot easier & cheaper to replace a (admittedly pricey) proper rigid lens hood like a 12585 than it is to repair a focussing mount or replace a lens element. I was carrying my M (pre-240) on my shoulder one day when I was having lunch with an extremely beautiful woman. I was talking to her about something & the M slipped off of my shoulder & hit a marble counter top. The impact of the fall was absorbed by the lens shade which was damaged. No damage to camera or lens. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stump4545 Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted July 6, 2013 oh, I thought the Leica 12504 hood would also help surpress flaring on these pre asph lenses. so if one is shooting these pre asph lenses like the 35mm v4 on the beach no real for a lens hood to prevent flaring? btw. i will try not to drop. thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted July 6, 2013 Share #4 Posted July 6, 2013 Hello Again stump4545, Sorry for the lack of clarity. 12504 or 12585: Flare suppression is important & a rigid lens hood should be used for that purpose. What I was also writing about was the greater importance of protecting as much as possible against inadvertant impact & damage. An unseen bump which may go unnoticed agaist a rigid lens hood might significantly damage a lens's element or a lens's mount. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted July 6, 2013 Share #5 Posted July 6, 2013 There will always be a situation where any lens will flare, some more, some less than others. The use of an effective lens hood is an extra precaution against this happening. Many times it will be effective, but not always. How important is your picture? That will tell you how useful the hood is. And yes, they do add physical protection to some degree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gberger Posted July 6, 2013 Share #6 Posted July 6, 2013 I had a V4 several years ago, and the lens hood was very useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted July 6, 2013 Share #7 Posted July 6, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I use the V4 with a 12504 hood and it is still nice, neat and unobtrusive. I have not experienced much flare with this lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 6, 2013 Share #8 Posted July 6, 2013 If you shoot on the beach you will probably use a filter then a good hood will become even more necessary to prevent flare, even if the 35/2 v4 is not the worst 35 from this viewpoint (try the CV 35/1.4 SC or the Summilux 35 pre-asph to compare). Why don't you use the original square plastic hood? It is quite handy and is small enough not to disturb you. Otherwise the 12504 is very nice indeed but not the most effective as a shade IMO. The 12585 is one of my favorites on the 35/2 asph but i don't recall if the 35/2 v4 vignettes with it. Normally no but i would ask other colleagues here to be sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade Posted July 6, 2013 Share #9 Posted July 6, 2013 I have always tried to use hoods whenever I can, I have always believed that they are made for a good reason.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stump4545 Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share #10 Posted July 6, 2013 thanks for all the insight. much appreciated. btw. would using a UV filter say with the 35mm v4 make this lens flare more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalo Posted July 6, 2013 Share #11 Posted July 6, 2013 The 12585 is one of my favorites on the 35/2 asph but i don't recall if the 35/2 v4 vignettes with it. No, it doesn't. The 12585H is a good investment in Leica-Land, given that it also fits at least six other 35 & 50mm lenses. Cheers, Alexander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stump4545 Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share #12 Posted July 6, 2013 is it me or the Leica 12504 sexier? any other cons of the 12504? thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 6, 2013 Share #13 Posted July 6, 2013 ...would using a UV filter say with the 35mm v4 make this lens flare more? It would add a cause of flare but with a good hood you will notice significant differences in rather rare situations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalo Posted July 6, 2013 Share #14 Posted July 6, 2013 ...would using a UV filter say with the 35mm v4 make this lens flare more? Same as lct, plus, the filter favours ghosting. Don't know the 12504, on pics it looks like having a slimmer clamp ring than the 12585H, this way it might get less in the way of the aperture ring. IMHO, the only Leica hood really to avoid is the vented round plastic 12538; it's for the 50/2 no.11819, but also fits the 35/2. This must be the least functional piece of Leica equipment I own because it's so wobbly that it's hard to take off, scratching the barrel in the process. In addition, the two pieces it's made of tend to disassemble. No good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 6, 2013 Share #15 Posted July 6, 2013 ...any other cons of the 12504?... It is more expensive and provides less shade that both 12585 and regular plastic 12524 or 12526 hoods. Nice hood though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 6, 2013 Share #16 Posted July 6, 2013 No, it doesn't. The 12585H is a good investment in Leica-Land, given that it also fits at least six other 35 & 50mm lenses. Thank you. I guess you add the "H" for sake of precaution but some 12585 hoods have kept the 35/2 engravings as well (pic) and comparing 12585 to 12585H hoods side by side don't show the least difference, as far as my samples are concerned at least. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/208278-lens-hood-a-must-on-35mm-cron-v4/?do=findComment&comment=2367718'>More sharing options...
lct Posted July 6, 2013 Share #17 Posted July 6, 2013 ...Don't know the 12504, on pics it looks like having a slimmer clamp ring than the 12585H, this way it might get less in the way of the aperture ring... I have not the 35/2 v4 with me here but 12504 and 12585 hoods stand at the same distance from the aperture ring on both my 35/1.4 pre-asph and 35/2 asph samples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalo Posted July 6, 2013 Share #18 Posted July 6, 2013 Thank you. I guess you add the "H" for sake of precaution but some 12585 hoods have kept the 35/2 engravings as well (pic) and comparing 12585 to 12585H hoods side by side don't show the least difference, as far as my samples are concerned at least. Indeed, I added the "H" because mine is an 12585H... and yes, no difference it seems, at least in construction. Good to know that the clamp does not change the handling, even though I don't have the 35/2IV anymore. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/208278-lens-hood-a-must-on-35mm-cron-v4/?do=findComment&comment=2367737'>More sharing options...
xalo Posted July 6, 2013 Share #19 Posted July 6, 2013 Just reading that the 12504 goes on the 35/1,4 pre-asph. I didn't recall the hood's number from when I had this lens. If it's the one that takes the series 7 filters, this hood seemed less sturdy to me than the 12585(H). At least I managed to bend it once in a bump and it appeared lighter in built. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 6, 2013 Share #20 Posted July 6, 2013 Same experience here but it shows the same build quality. It's just that it is significantly slimmer i guess. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/208278-lens-hood-a-must-on-35mm-cron-v4/?do=findComment&comment=2367771'>More sharing options...
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