stevelap Posted May 25, 2013 Share #381 Posted May 25, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well I haven't a clue about the new 'Mini'......but I do know that I'm number one on my dealer's pre-order list . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 Hi stevelap, Take a look here Mini M? [MERGED] AKA X-Vario. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
dwbell Posted May 25, 2013 Share #382 Posted May 25, 2013 Can't even begin to get excite about it. Did with M9, did with the M240 then it wained. I really hope they hit a home run. I really do. Just not confident that they will any more and if they do that I'll see one in my bag for another 2 years or so. By then there will have been massive changes in EVF etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted May 25, 2013 Share #383 Posted May 25, 2013 This photoshopped picture probably was meant as a joke ... but in fact, I believe this is pretty damn close to what is about to come. M lens mount, 35-mm full-frame, no built-in rangefinder, no built-in electronic finder, no viewfinder at all, just the display on the back and an optional accessory EVF. Basically an M (Typ 240) without the rangefinder. If this turns out to be the Mini M, with a subsequent reduction in size over the M240, and it comes in at around £3,500 GBP, then I'd be tempted to buy it as my hand-held carry around camera. Hey, it could be my first Leica! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmteno76 Posted May 25, 2013 Share #384 Posted May 25, 2013 This would be my dream for mini m.. Time will tell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikP Posted May 25, 2013 Share #385 Posted May 25, 2013 After reading everything I could about the M240 and in parallell saving for it - it almost got exhausting that Leica released this news :-) I guess I'm spoild Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psanseve Posted May 25, 2013 Share #386 Posted May 25, 2013 Leica M Mini, already assumed the name belonging to the class's oldest home. The fact that it ranks among the M-Series and X, presumes a mirrorless Leica-style. We hope that you can use all lenses with M and M as well as for the last adapter for optical R, it would be a great thing. Eventually all the major competitors have invested and interesting products launched in this segment of the market (including the Hasselblad Lunar). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted May 25, 2013 Share #387 Posted May 25, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Can't even begin to get excite about it. Did with M9, did with the M240 then it wained. I really hope they hit a home run. I really do. Just not confident that they will any more and if they do that I'll see one in my bag for another 2 years or so. By then there will have been massive changes in EVF etc. I think this is a bit beside reality. Leica has , since their slow and difficult digital turn , for the first time in their existence paid dividend to their shareholders, so they do make home runs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted May 25, 2013 Share #388 Posted May 25, 2013 And yet by your own statements you have chosen a $500 APSC Sony NEX rather than a $2000 APSC Leica x2. The X2 is in no way comparable to the $1000 Nex 6 with 16-50 lens. I did not buy the $1300 Nex 7 because the lens on it was too large. Price was not a factor. You really should not make the mistake that whatever Leica makes has to be so different from the competition. That will be impossible unless they make something like a twin lens reflex. In general, Leica's competition, is all other cameras. And you can't project my purchasing choices onto a broad worldwide market. They don't have to outsell Sony to be successful. Just as Mercedes, BMW, and Porsche, can profitably sell SUVs without having to outsell Jeep and Ford who originally defined that market. It seems to me that Leica tested the waters with the X1 and X2 and sees a value in making an APS camera with interchangeable lenses to better compete against other cameras in that size. Their simplest route would be to expand on that basic design but I'd hope they'd integrate the EVF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 25, 2013 Share #389 Posted May 25, 2013 This photoshopped picture probably was meant as a joke ... but in fact, I believe this is pretty damn close to what is about to come. [...] I photo-chopped the image to illustrate exactly that, 01af. If I can't have one in IRL, then I can photo-chop dream. Rolling, rolling gently down the stream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted May 25, 2013 Share #390 Posted May 25, 2013 I hope I'm wrong but it seems to me exceedingly unlikely that they'll be making a FF interchangeable-lens M-mount camera with a sensor that does justice to our favourite M lenses, is appreciably smaller than a M, is well-made enough to be carried everywhere and used every day, and costs less than an M-E. And is available to buy. But if I am wrong, I'd like some Leica shares please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 25, 2013 Share #391 Posted May 25, 2013 I think this is a bit beside reality. Leica has , since their slow and difficult digital turn , for the first time in their existence paid dividend to their shareholders, so they do make home runs Stockholders? Shareholders? Leica Camera? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted May 25, 2013 Share #392 Posted May 25, 2013 Stockholders? Shareholders? Leica Camera? What are you trying to tell me? That you don't know that Leica made an all time high profit the last few years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 25, 2013 Share #393 Posted May 25, 2013 Originally Posted by picoStockholders? Shareholders? Leica Camera? What are you trying to tell me? That you don't know that Leica made an all time high profit the last few years? I am addressing the question of stock/shareholders whom you claimed received dividends for the first time in years. The company is no longer listed on the board. It has (virtually) no public stockholders. This is also addressed to Peter. No stock, Peter! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted May 25, 2013 Share #394 Posted May 25, 2013 True. "No Stock." A Leica speciality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted May 25, 2013 Share #395 Posted May 25, 2013 I photo-chopped the image to illustrate exactly that, 01af. So you were serious, not joking? Oh. I think when you turn out right on June 11th then everybody who responded to this thread will owe you a beer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenWithAVee Posted May 25, 2013 Share #396 Posted May 25, 2013 I keep telling myself that I won't be interested if it's not FF with interchangeable lenses. Let's just hope I can keep telling myself that after the announcement! Because really, a fixed lens and/or crop sensor doesn't interest me. (trying to convince myself!) But saving 2 or 3 grand off the price of a 240, IF it would have comparable sensor/image quality, does interest me. But then again, waiting for a year (?) for such a thing does not interest me. Thankfully June 11 isn't really that far away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted May 25, 2013 Share #397 Posted May 25, 2013 I keep telling myself that I won't be interested if it's not FF with interchangeable lenses. Let's just hope I can keep telling myself that after the announcement! Because really, a fixed lens and/or crop sensor doesn't interest me. (trying to convince myself!) But saving 2 or 3 grand off the price of a 240, IF it would have comparable sensor/image quality, does interest me. But then again, waiting for a year (?) for such a thing does not interest me. Thankfully June 11 isn't really that far away. Well I don't think it will be a PanaLeica, so you'll have to wait anyway. Besides, the D-lux 6 was only delivered half a year after announcement too. But then again, Leica will not jeopardize the sale numbers of the M with this mini M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 25, 2013 Share #398 Posted May 25, 2013 .... it is a triumph of viral marketing. So let's play the game of "math marketing" ... ...from that famed Leica web page ("nano-micro-mini...M" !) which clearly suggests a logical lineup. Round prices - Euros : - Nano M : 700 with a std. zoom f2,3 to 4,7 - Micro M : 1750 with a f 2,8 std. lens - Mini M : x with y lens - M : 7800 with a f2 std. lens By logic, x ought to be around 4000...MORE or LESS - Something MORE being y a Summarit 2,5... this would bring to a FF with a body priced around 3000... even too brilliant... seems to me too a good price if the EVF is built in... (of course, within Leica pricing' standard... indeed it would be a strong competitor for Sony Rx1 which has a fixed lens) - Something LESS being y "something new"... priced around <1000 ... this would bring to a 2600-2800 body that could be an APS-H CMOSIS camera....roughly +50% than a Fuij XPro.... (not to speak of the XE)... but with their "own" sensor and a new lens' line, they could even "invent" a new crop size... a 20x30 or so... ... End of the game... ... I don't blame anyone who consider it a silly exercise... ... maybe, at the end, it's all about the new factory and the output they plan to take from it... anyway, I think that if they really want to broaden their market, they must take in consideration, for the first time in recent history, the other players in the marketplace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 25, 2013 Share #399 Posted May 25, 2013 Well I don't think it will be a PanaLeica, so you'll have to wait anyway. Besides, the D-lux 6 was only delivered half a year after announcement too.But then again, Leica will not jeopardize the sale numbers of the M with this mini M. If this camera would encroach on the "bottom end" of the M market it wouldn't be too bad a scenario - the orders outstrip production too much at the moment anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenWithAVee Posted May 25, 2013 Share #400 Posted May 25, 2013 Well I don't think it will be a PanaLeica, so you'll have to wait anyway. Besides, the D-lux 6 was only delivered half a year after announcement too.But then again, Leica will not jeopardize the sale numbers of the M with this mini M. I only hope it would take a few off of the wait list for the 240 and move my name up a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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