Dannybuoy Posted June 3, 2013 Share #1101 Â Posted June 3, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) That's so fake. Photoshopped by an amateur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 Hi Dannybuoy, Take a look here Mini M? [MERGED] AKA X-Vario. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
luigi bertolotti Posted June 3, 2013 Share #1102 Â Posted June 3, 2013 Obvious photoshop. Â Yes... a 18-50 2,8 for APS-C can't be like that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted June 3, 2013 Share #1103 Â Posted June 3, 2013 That's a 'Piltdown Leica' Â dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earful Posted June 3, 2013 Share #1104 Â Posted June 3, 2013 The RX1 lens appears better than it is because it is fully integrated in the camera, both optically and electronically. The firmware is geared towards this one lens making all corrections more precise, the sensor and lens are designed as one unit, allowing an optimal compensation of aberrations. The end result is a very good image quality, but it makes the discussion whether this is a "better" lens somewhat difficult, if not impossible and certainly moot. Â so how much better do you think a leica summicron would appear to be if implanted in the same way? i have a suspicion it would have to appear to be a heck of a lot better to change the perception that sony has raised the bar on an least one option out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 3, 2013 Share #1105 Â Posted June 3, 2013 so how much better do you think a leica summicron would appear to be if implanted in the same way? i have a suspicion it would have to appear to be a heck of a lot better to change the perception that sony has raised the bar on an least one option out there. Â That's an impossible question... Summicron is designed to be a removable lens for a certain mount and flange distance, and Sony has been designed as a fixed lens camera with a certain lens onto...and that's all... we are in the field of apples to oranges... Surely Leica could design a fine fixed lens FF camera with a 35 or 50 f2.... maybe not exactly the current Summicrons... but I doubt they will make such an item... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptZoom Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1106 Â Posted June 4, 2013 It seems to me the X1/X2 would make a better (not good, but better) comparison to the RX1, specifically when talking about Leica and Sony's ability to design lens integrated cameras. I agree with the sentiment that comparing removable lenses with integrated lens is difficult (except of course for experts/engineers) and is akin to comparing apples to oranges where it can be said both are fruits yet clearly distinct varieties with more dissimilar than similar properties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1107 Â Posted June 4, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) so how much better do you think a leica summicron would appear to be if implanted in the same way? i have a suspicion it would have to appear to be a heck of a lot better to change the perception that sony has raised the bar on an least one option out there. A meaningless question because such a lens, even if the word Summicron were engraved on the barrel, would be of a different design. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earful Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1108 Â Posted June 4, 2013 That's an impossible question... Summicron is designed to be a removable lens for a certain mount and flange distance, and Sony has been designed as a fixed lens camera with a certain lens onto...and that's all... we are in the field of apples to oranges... Surely Leica could design a fine fixed lens FF camera with a 35 or 50 f2.... maybe not exactly the current Summicrons... but I doubt they will make such an item... Â ah! so the 24/2.8 asph elmarit on my x1 is an apples to oranges misrepresentation. i am disappointed in leica. all this time i have been telling myself that i had actually purchased that lens but just attached to a specific body and sensor. Â and thanks for the eyeroll. haven't seen it in awhile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1109  Posted June 4, 2013 ah! so the 24/2.8 asph elmarit on my x1 is an apples to oranges misrepresentation. i am disappointed in leica. all this time i have been telling myself that i had actually purchased that lens but just attached to a specific body and sensor. and thanks for the eyeroll. haven't seen it in awhile.  Yes, if compared with the Elmarit-M 24 2,8 asph.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1110  Posted June 4, 2013 ah! so the 24/2.8 asph elmarit on my x1 is an apples to oranges misrepresentation. i am disappointed in leica. all this time i have been telling myself that i had actually purchased that lens but just attached to a specific body and sensor. and thanks for the eyeroll. haven't seen it in awhile. Yes, it is a separate formula. The names of lenses with Leica generally indicate a lens speed, not a lens design. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1111 Â Posted June 4, 2013 Will this thread make 100 pages before the 11th I wonder. Could be close:D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpowershot Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1112 Â Posted June 4, 2013 We need more "leaks" for this... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1113  Posted June 4, 2013 This is a genuine bonafide true as ever leak.  When they said Mini they really did mean MINI. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205247-mini-m-merged-aka-x-vario/?do=findComment&comment=2338762'>More sharing options...
stevelap Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1114 Â Posted June 4, 2013 You've all got it so wrong...... Â It's going to be a Leica branded Mac Mini computer bundled with the one-off, Jonny Ive designed charity auction M . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1115  Posted June 4, 2013 News just in. The Mini M manual is quite tricky to read. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205247-mini-m-merged-aka-x-vario/?do=findComment&comment=2338790'>More sharing options...
peterv Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1116  Posted June 4, 2013 That's so fake. Photoshopped by an amateur  Hmmm, maybe you're right, but the new picture on the Leica homepage looks a lot like it.  Leica Camera AG - Home  Definitely an X-like camera coming out of the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1117  Posted June 4, 2013 Hmmm, maybe you're right, but the new picture on the Leica homepage looks a lot like it. Leica Camera AG - Home  Definitely an X-like camera coming out of the box.  I still don't think we can tell anything it certainly doesn't look like the fixed zoom oner being bandied around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1118  Posted June 4, 2013 I still don't think we can tell anythingit certainly doesn't look like the fixed zoom oner being bandied around  It sure doesn't. This is about the picture on the bottom of page 55. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1119  Posted June 4, 2013 I still don't think we can tell anythingit certainly doesn't look like the fixed zoom oner being bandied around  Looks the same as the leaked image to me - X-VARIO fixed zoom and slow as hell no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1120 Â Posted June 4, 2013 It would not surprise me if it was a faster zoom though - the original leaked image being a disappointment, only to be saved by a somewhat faster zoom, in an under promise and over deliver kinda way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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