algrove Posted May 11, 2013 Share #541 Posted May 11, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) No problem "indoors" for me. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/203015-m-color/?do=findComment&comment=2319191'>More sharing options...
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Rick Posted May 11, 2013 Share #542 Posted May 11, 2013 That's a great shot algrove, but you really need to get out and shoot something besides these brick wall test images. p.s. Did you shoot that photo with the Blackstone-50? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted May 11, 2013 Share #543 Posted May 11, 2013 Overall, I think the color is better than the M9 for skin tones and about the same if you shoot landscapes - very good to excellent. This is proving to be my experience - a little tweaking in LR AND making sure that monitor calibratioon is up to date, and I have few problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted May 11, 2013 Share #544 Posted May 11, 2013 From my playing I think it might be worth for Rick to maybe go over the M9 'yellow trick' again here? Or maybe just comment on if you're using it on M240 files? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don daniel Posted May 11, 2013 Share #545 Posted May 11, 2013 Interesting discussion indeed as my findings are somewhat contrary to what has been said above. No disrespect folks as my experience with the M240 (# 47015**) is limited to a couple of hours and with LR4 to a dozen of minutes at best. Let alone that i'm in my country house now w/o any chart nor tripod on hand. Anyway, my feeling for what it's worth is that the camera's AWB shows indeed too saturated colours (mainly but not only reds) and that LR 4.4's default settings are useless to fix the problem whilst those of C1 7.1.1 show more accurate results by far. For those interested, the original dng file can be downloaded here until May 18, 2013 09:33: http://tinyurl.com/ckpteut (28 MB file) Thank you for the DNG-File. Here ist my version generated in LR 4.4: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted May 11, 2013 Share #546 Posted May 11, 2013 This is opened in ACR and no adjustments other than -25 on saturation. The native files are too saturated indeed but it is easy to address. Custom profiles appear to be the way to go until both Leica and adobe get things fixed. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/203015-m-color/?do=findComment&comment=2319227'>More sharing options...
dwbell Posted May 11, 2013 Share #547 Posted May 11, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is opened in ACR and no adjustments other than -25 on saturation. The native files are too saturated indeed but it is easy to address. Custom profiles appear to be the way to go until both Leica and adobe get things fixed. Of course if you fail to keep up your CC subscription payments Adobe will cut your access to the software and your profiles will no longer work..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 11, 2013 Share #548 Posted May 11, 2013 Like K-H, I'm also interested in results without UV-IR compared to with UV/IR. And, similarly, how you feel about b/w versus the M8.2... UV/IR filters desaturate a bit red, orange and magenta colours aside from darkening some black fabrics but i have not tried them on pinkish and ruddy skins so far. No experience enough there but i'll keep the filters as long as i use the M8.2 probably as they don't seem to produce color shifts with 24mm to 90mm lenses so far. I did not try them on all my lenses though and i've no experience enough with b/w pics either sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verbivore Posted May 11, 2013 Share #549 Posted May 11, 2013 Wilson, Thank you very much, it helps a lot. Thomas Chen I haven’t seen anything in the files that I would call “rough.” The resolution is extremely high, and there is no anti-aliasing filter, so the results are extremely sharp. Some photo-hosting Web sites (like Smugmug and Flickr) automatically apply sharpening to uploaded photos. This can make already-sharp images like those from the 240 look “crunchy” or “overly digital.” I had to learn to turn this sharpening off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted May 12, 2013 Share #550 Posted May 12, 2013 No problem "indoors" for me. [ATTACH]376041[/ATTACH] Are you interested in trying and posting a B&W conversion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 12, 2013 Share #551 Posted May 12, 2013 Just to check skin tones, this was taken using AWB and developed in LR5 using a wide base dual illuminance profile. I think it is acceptable. I was using AWB as I was constantly taking photos yesterday in widely changing lighting conditions. Lens was a Zeiss Vario Sonnar 28-85 f3.3. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/203015-m-color/?do=findComment&comment=2319572'>More sharing options...
algrove Posted May 12, 2013 Share #552 Posted May 12, 2013 I think the merde looks too red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted May 12, 2013 Share #553 Posted May 12, 2013 That's a great shot algrove, but you really need to get out and shoot something besides these brick wall test images. p.s. Did you shoot that photo with the Blackstone-50? No that was with the 21SEM. Here's the Blackstone 50. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/203015-m-color/?do=findComment&comment=2319664'>More sharing options...
algrove Posted May 12, 2013 Share #554 Posted May 12, 2013 Are you interested in trying and posting a B&W conversion? I shot color with the M and B&W with my MM. Sorry, I did not take this shot with my MM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 12, 2013 Share #555 Posted May 12, 2013 ...Custom profiles appear to be the way to go until both Leica and adobe get things fixed. Agreed but the Leica firmware is better under manual WB to be honest. LR default settings still show oversatured reds under manual WB compared to both Leica and C1. Nice rendition at 2000 iso otherwise. - Out of camera jpg: http://tinyurl.com/bvcvonr (4 MB file) - Out of LR tif converted to jpg: http://tinyurl.com/dyy5xet (28 MB file) - Out of C1 tif converted to jpg: http://tinyurl.com/cxp9oru (32 MB file) For those interested, the original dng file can be downloaded here until May 19, 2013: http://tinyurl.com/cw9zpuy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Chen Posted May 13, 2013 Share #556 Posted May 13, 2013 My experience is that you cannot use the WB presets in the camera or lightroom. They add too much yellow and magenta. In camera, AWB is still the best, or manual. Then in LR, I manually tweak as I go per image. My gallery is here if you'd like to see. Using AWB (which I previously never used much) is what all these were shot on, and outdoors it's very accurate, requiring little color shifting. Kristian, You are using Eizo Color Edge GC246, do yoou set up a 10-bit dispaly environment to browse the image (16-bit TIFF)? Thanks! Thomas Chen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Chen Posted May 13, 2013 Share #557 Posted May 13, 2013 No idea how you have managed to get these fluorescent colours out of the M240..... quote] From Professor Pinker's link to Netherlands in this thread I opened each images and click the "save photo" icon on the pop-up menu to download those jpeg files. Then browse the jpeg files in Aperture on the Apple 15.4" McBook Pro with Retina display (2880 x 1800 pixels), the image rendition is stunning, with extreme high resolution and details. Colors are much better balanced, red color is still salient than others, however, with less degree. This act extracts the best potential of M240 images. Perhaps high resolution monitor can unveil the true face of M240 image. Thomas Chen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Chen Posted May 13, 2013 Share #558 Posted May 13, 2013 No idea how you have managed to get these fluorescent colours out of the M240..... My images using LR with a dual illuminant profile and manually set WB (5000K for sunny and 5600K for overcast) produces much more mild mannered and natural photos...... From Professor Pinker's link to Netherlands in this thread I opened each images and click the "save photo" icon on the pop-up menu to download those jpeg files. Then browse the jpeg files in Aperture on the Apple 15.4" McBook Pro with Retina display (2880 x 1800 pixels), the image rendition is stunning, with extreme high resolution and details. Colors are much better balanced, red color is still salient than others, however, with less degree. This act extracts the best potential of M240 images. Perhaps high resolution monitor can unveil the true face of M240 image. Thomas Chen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdk Posted May 13, 2013 Share #559 Posted May 13, 2013 No problem "indoors" for me. [ATTACH]376041[/ATTACH] Is this Fort Warren in Boston Harbor by any chance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted May 13, 2013 Share #560 Posted May 13, 2013 Is this Fort Warren in Boston Harbor by any chance? No, but it is a Fort. Fort Jefferson in the Dry Tortugas NP, the largest brick building in the Western Hemisphere, they say. That's why RickLeica keeps joking with me about test shots of brick walls and I keep him recommending camera bags links. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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