k-hawinkler Posted August 28, 2013 Share #201 Posted August 28, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thought for the day: we seem to be automatically assuming that the Sandisk cards are bona fide.. Are we absolutely certain that this is true because there are an awful lot of counterfeit Sandisk cards in circulation? Just saying. Pete. Red herring? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mauribix Posted August 28, 2013 Share #202 Posted August 28, 2013 Thought for the day: we seem to be automatically assuming that the Sandisk cards are bona fide.. Are we absolutely certain that this is true because there are an awful lot of counterfeit Sandisk cards in circulation? Just saying. Pete. Ciao Pete, I thought about that at first, that's why I tried with 3 different sellers, as well as different SD makers (Trascend, Panasonic and Lexar too). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirekE Posted August 28, 2013 Share #203 Posted August 28, 2013 Thought for the day: we seem to be automatically assuming that the Sandisk cards are bona fide.. Are we absolutely certain that this is true because there are an awful lot of counterfeit Sandisk cards in circulation? Just saying. Pete. Absolutely certain I am not, but the 4.5s Extreme Pro I mentioned in my posts before came from B&H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirekE Posted August 28, 2013 Share #204 Posted August 28, 2013 Jaap, I wouldn't uphold Leica on this regards. Nevertheless, even if you don't care about the speed, you're still confirming that your startup time (which seems to be the best yet recorded), is out of specs too, and it's slower tha the M's predecessors (not counting the competitors).So it's not a sample's issue imho. I am reluctant to compare with M9, which had its share of problems with cards as well. My M9 had occasional lockups and I am more comfortable with predictable delay than with unpredictable lockups. I am not so reluctant to compare with my ages old Canon 5D2 though. I did the same test as with the Leica. There is no delay to measure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted August 28, 2013 Share #205 Posted August 28, 2013 I am reluctant to compare with M9, which had its share of problems with cards as well. My M9 had occasional lockups and I am more comfortable with predictable delay than with unpredictable lockups. It seems quite obvious to me instead, since the M9 is the closest "relative" to the M 240. Then again, the M9 trouble with SD cards seems to be another matter to me. I am not so reluctant to compare with my ages old Canon 5D2 though. I did the same test as with the Leica. There is no delay to measure. Oh, well you're right. As I wrote earlier, I'm just keeping myself from putting other camera makers into the equation, 'cause it would be even more serious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 28, 2013 Share #206 Posted August 28, 2013 "Old" 5D2? No delay with my 8 y/o 5D1 either. Instantaneous like a film camera. No matter what old or new cards are used. Why on earth can't we have at last a real Leica? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgcm Posted August 30, 2013 Share #207 Posted August 30, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Today I bought a new 16 GB Sandisk Extreme (just Extreme) rated 80MB/s at 27 usd at a bestbuy in Chicago. With this card the camera is lightning fast. Switch on time is less then half a second and continuous shooting is actually continuous. No slow down (DNG compressed). The camera wakes up istantaneously. I never had problem with my other Sandik, but this new one is visibly faster than old ones. I hope this can help Franco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 30, 2013 Share #208 Posted August 30, 2013 Today I bought a new 16 GB Sandisk Extreme (just Extreme) rated 80MB/s at 27 usd at a bestbuy in Chicago. With this card the camera is lightning fast.... Not for me (2s). Might i ask how you measured yours? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted August 30, 2013 Share #209 Posted August 30, 2013 Switch on time is less then half a second and continuous shooting is actually continuous. No slow down (DNG compressed). The camera wakes up istantaneously This seems to be the fastest M240 ever recorded. May I ask you how you recorded that too? Few more questions: -how many red led blinks you can count when turning it on? -Have you tried the 32GB too? (I did, and it was just a pain) -Is it really half a second if you switch on the camera, while pressing the shutter button? ...in other words, it should be half a second from the moment you turn it on, until the moment the shot is taken In that case, seems like your Leica M, is not only faster than ours when shooting with an SD card, but it's faster than my camera with no sd card at all, which is odd (and FWIW, it's faster than the one I've used at the Leica event in Milan, as well as the one available at the Leica Store in Rome...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 30, 2013 Share #210 Posted August 30, 2013 ...it's faster than the one I've used at the Leica event in Milan, as well as the one available at the Leica Store in Rome... Or perhaps it is a famous SF card boosted at Maranello. SF meaning Sandisk Ferrari and not Science Fiction of course. Just kidding Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/201032-m240-sd-cards-and-associated-camera-function-speeds/?do=findComment&comment=2409182'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 30, 2013 Share #211 Posted August 30, 2013 Not only are there fake SanDisk cards around but duff genuine ones as well. I have now had two bad 16GB 48X cards. In a way it has worked in my favour, as SanDisk has replaced them with 95X ones. My symptoms included getting a file number with no content and failing to erase file numbers although the content was erased. This was on my first M240. I have had no problems with the replacement M240. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted August 30, 2013 Share #212 Posted August 30, 2013 Not for me (2s). Might i ask how you measured yours? I agree ...... appearances can be very deceptive....... what seems to be 'lightning quick' compared to a slower card on measuring turns out to be 2 seconds..... ..... time slows dramatically when you do it looking at a stopwatch ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 30, 2013 Share #213 Posted August 30, 2013 Sure. Whilst we are at it, some of you folks might wish to try an online stopwatch to reduce the error margin. Switch the camera off, aim it at the monitor, hold down the shutter release, switch the camera on whilst hitting the start button of the stopwatch and look at the pic. I do that thrice and keep the average result personally. FWIW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted August 30, 2013 Share #214 Posted August 30, 2013 Sure. Whilst we are at it, some of you folks might wish to try an online stopwatch to reduce the error margin. Switch the camera off, aim it at the monitor, hold down the shutter release, switch the camera on whilst hitting the start button of the stopwatch and look at the pic. I do that thrice and keep the average result personally. FWIW. ditto. I use exactly the same and shoot at each multiple of 10 seconds with it constantly running. Needs a bit of practice to switch on with the shutter pressed just as the XX0.00 passes though ...... and you have a pictorial record to prove you aren't cheating or have got an over-optimistic memory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 31, 2013 Share #215 Posted August 31, 2013 Yep - that is the way it should be measured and not just once. Do it ten times and average the results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusubandenwa Posted August 31, 2013 Share #216 Posted August 31, 2013 With the Sandisk 16GB Extreme (just Extreme, not Extreme Pro) my M is lightning fast. Absolutely recommended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 1, 2013 Share #217 Posted September 1, 2013 Would you mind to measure your startup times with the online stopwatch referred to above? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share #218 Posted September 2, 2013 Agree, one man's "lightning fast" is another man's 2.5 seconds... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted September 2, 2013 Share #219 Posted September 2, 2013 Seems like all the super fast lightning cards need to be trusted with an act of faith till now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Owl Posted October 2, 2013 Share #220 Posted October 2, 2013 Has the world of SD cards changed while I wasn't paying attention? When the long-awaited M240 comes -- my first digital camera -- I shall need an SD card. So, consulting lct's invaluable table of SD-card speeds, and other comments on the forum, I decided on Panasonic Gold Pro (RP-SDA16GE1K) as perhaps the least likely to cause any problem. But it's been discontinued! ... or at least that's what I've been told by two UK retailers, one of them a Panasonic owned shop. Instead, pointers on the Web are directed towards Toshiba's new SDHC-II cards, which "will be launched in major markets worldwide, starting with Japan in October." Toshiba : Press Release 16 Jul, 2013 Does anyone have any idea when these will become available in the UK? Later, Dr Owl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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