Do Digilux 2 photos have distinctive look?

[Digitom]

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Hi Dopey, I like your image!

 

After being struggling with the noise in the shadows when shooting at night, I decided to rather underexpose images taken at night. Why? Because, besides less noise, I want to have darkness in the images where darkness was in reality, and I do not care that much about details in the shadows.

On the other hand, if there is a strong light in the image that could lead to a too short exposure time, I overexpose a little bit, no matter if the light is too bright then.

 

Just my 2 cents...

 

 

I add another 2 (Euro)cents:D

What you write is also my opinion. In these digital era we think that a picture have to show details in light and shadow. But that is IMHO not the reality. I get a crisis when I look at the result of such a development which is - HDR photography! THERE you get many detail in every section of tho pic, if it is in light or shadow. But that is so artificial, like some painting. It has nothing to do with normal viewing of our environment.

 

I like the photo of Dopey, because he wanted to guide the view to the light, the rest is a kind of "frame" as he say, and that is the normal natural situation, because if one would standing right there personal when he made the shot, it would be the same: when you look into the enlighted areas, you CANNOT see ANY details in the dark surrounding. Black is black. Only, when you look some seconds into the dark area your eye adapt, and one can see details in the shadows.

 

But that is a thing a photo cannot show. We must decide: Light or dark. When one want to paint out the dark areas in that photo shown, it is normal to get noise, because the photo is "optimized" for the view into the light - the situation Dopey sure wanted to tell us.

 

Of course, some cameras like the M has of course more "hidden potential" in the RAW files when playing with the knobs in Lightroom or Photoshop - but that is normally not needed. Good to have for "emergency" not more. Because my thinking of photo taking is, to give natural light conditions. For that target, D2 is good enough, and for me: very good.

Edited January 19, 2011 by Digitom

[John Thawley]

Wow...

 

There is a lot of assuming going on.

 

No one mentioned HDR.

 

The point I started to make was regarding how to get the most out of the image and incur the least amount of noise.

 

Dopey insists, this is the image he wants. Good. Perfect.

 

Krabat states: "I want to have darkness in the images where darkness was in reality, and I do not care that much about details in the shadows. "

 

OK... fine.

 

No one said to open up and light the scene as if it were daylight. HOWEVER...

 

If you were standing at that location the shadow area to your right has something in it. Not talking about lighting it up. I'm saying there is "detail." The resolution of the images is totally blocked out... as is the building in the background. I'm quite confident that windows in the background aren't floating in outer space. There's a wall there.

 

Shadow detail is important... you would see it if you were standing there.

 

For years, lens designers, film manufacturer's, print makers, photographers all strive to hold shadow detail. NOT create something that isn't there... hold something that is there. Record the scene accurately. THAT is the challenge.

 

If you don't care about it, then you're all set. But this photo was posted as an example that a Digilux 2 can be shot at 400 ISO without issue. My opinion is the opposite of that and I stand by it.

 

Sorry if that offends anyone.

[Digitom]

Wow...

 

There is a lot of assuming going on.

 

No one mentioned HDR.

 

The point I started to make was regarding how to get the most out of the image and incur the least amount of noise.

 

Dopey insists, this is the image he wants. Good. Perfect.

 

Krabat states: "I want to have darkness in the images where darkness was in reality, and I do not care that much about details in the shadows. "

 

OK... fine.

 

No one said to open up and light the scene as if it were daylight. HOWEVER...

 

If you were standing at that location the shadow area to your right has something in it. Not talking about lighting it up. I'm saying there is "detail." The resolution of the images is totally blocked out... as is the building in the background. I'm quite confident that windows in the background aren't floating in outer space. There's a wall there.

 

Shadow detail is important... you would see it if you were standing there.

 

For years, lens designers, film manufacturer's, print makers, photographers all strive to hold shadow detail. NOT create something that isn't there... hold something that is there. Record the scene accurately. THAT is the challenge.

 

If you don't care about it, then you're all set. But this photo was posted as an example that a Digilux 2 can be shot at 400 ISO without issue. My opinion is the opposite of that and I stand by it.

 

Sorry if that offends anyone.

 

 

Sure shadow details are important, IF there are details. Only the photographer can say if there were details and if the cam brings it out into the picture taken. But I understadn sure what you mean, and it is also ok that Digilux 2 has her limits at high ISO - anyhow ISO 400 is really not high and D2 is very noise then. Thats a fact and I think it is not offending. I also pointed out HDR only as a little "provocation" and what is the result if people want details in darker and highlighted areas of a picture at same time.

[newbee]

from a friends concert , (not much shadow detailes here:D).

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[John Thawley]

I especially like the first shot. The second... is a bit uncomfortable with his expression since it takes a bit to dig out the context that explains it.

 

The first is very telling... and (not sure if it was an attempt at sarcasm) does have pretty nice shadow detail. It's not "hot" in one central area... there are objects in the background that are lighter than objects in the foreground... it's not like looking through a peephole.

 

Good shot and good job getting the most out of the camera.

 

JT

[newbee]

I especially like the first shot. The second... is a bit uncomfortable with his expression since it takes a bit to dig out the context that explains it.

 

The first is very telling... and (not sure if it was an attempt at sarcasm) does have pretty nice shadow detail. It's not "hot" in one central area... there are objects in the background that are lighter than objects in the foreground... it's not like looking through a peephole.

 

Good shot and good job getting the most out of the camera.

 

JT

 

Thanks for your comments ,agree with you on the second one, i know the story on this picture because he is a friend of mine, but it have the same nice exposure as the first so i included it anyway .

[John Thawley]

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Thanks for your comments ,agree with you on the second one, i know the story on this picture because he is a friend of mine, but it have the same nice exposure as the first so i included it anyway .

 

I understand. - but it does look like a frat party gone wrong. LOL

[farnz]

I understand. - but it does look like a frat party gone wrong. LOL

... or wind.

 

Pete.

[newbee]

... or wind.

 

Pete.

[dopey]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/69pixels/

 

Hi Newbee

 

Seeing your fab woodland photos with the DL2 i was inspired to take a walk into woods nearby. A typically rainy grey.

 

 

 

I do feel DL2 has a distinctive look ... distinct from any other camera i have had. I luuv this Lady's output

[newbee]

Hi Newbee

 

Seeing your fab woodland photos with the DL2 i was inspired to take a walk into woods nearby. A typically rainy grey.

 

 

 

I do feel DL2 has a distinctive look ... distinct from any other camera i have had. I luuv this Lady's output

 

Hi ,rainy gray is not a bad thing, as you demonstrate here, and yes this little gem of a camera shure has a distinktive look, it realy makes me want to go out and shoot, come rain or snow. i almost never use my nikons anymore, might as well sell them and buy a second DL2:D

[dopey]

rainy gray

 

Aye ... overcast if my favourite weather for photoing.

[fatfaria]

Great camera and a true Leica. The zoom lens is superb and the output way better than other 5MP cameras I owned in the past. Mine is 2 months old in my keeping as I bought it second hand through Ffordes. What I particularly like is the fact that photos do come out very similar to analogue Leica photos and definitely have a "certain" look, especially B&W.

The B&W photo was taken as RAW at ISO 400 and PP in LR 3.1.

 

Regards, Fernando

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[carlosecpf]

Beautiful shots, Fernando!

Is it possible to see a larger version of them? Perhaps on a web gallery?

 

Thanks,

Carlos

 

Great camera and a true Leica. The zoom lens is superb and the output way better than other 5MP cameras I owned in the past. Mine is 2 months old in my keeping as I bought it second hand through Ffordes. What I particularly like is the fact that photos do come out very similar to analogue Leica photos and definitely have a "certain" look, especially B&W.

The B&W photo was taken as RAW at ISO 400 and PP in LR 3.1.

 

Regards, Fernando

[carlosecpf]

This was took at ISO 400. Jpeg straight out the the camera.

I just love the film-like mood.

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[dopey]

 

I cant quite describe why this photo has a distinctive look, i just feel the way the light is handled is sublime.

[LeicaMAC]

I agree dopey; the way the light falls on the wooden floor near the doors, and the shadows of the trees... lovely.

Some of the shots posted over the past week (particularly the B+Ws), are a real inspiration to a nonprofessional like me, to make sure I have my D2 with me.

[AlbertoDeRoma]

 

I cant quite describe why this photo has a distinctive look, i just feel the way the light is handled is sublime.

 

Agree, the D2 has a way of dealing with certain tones and light situations that is uniquely pleasing. I find that it handles shades of brown particularly well - not sure why.

 

Alberto

[farnz]

Some shots from The Clown Service last weekend. There's a yearly memorial service for the original clown, Joseph Grimaldi, in a local church and in 1967 clowns were granted permission to attend in full regalia. So they do.

 

Apart from some light cropping and resizing for the forum there was no post-processing on these jpegs.

 

Pete.

 

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[John Thawley]

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