nggalai Posted November 11, 2012 Share #21 Posted November 11, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) OpenCL? There’s various ways to use graphics hardware for processing non-display graphics, one of them is the OpenCL API. PhaseOne uses OpenCL to speed up both viewport rendering inside CaptureOne as well as processing the final versions (i.e. output as JPEG, TIFF, PSD, whatever). If available, that is. With OSX 10.6 and 10.7, most graphics units built into recent Macs can be used to do the numbers crunching and speed up processing considerably. According to the release notes, though, OpenCL with OSX 10.8 – or rather, with the included graphics drivers – isn’t supported yet. For more information about what OpenCL is, see here: OpenCL - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia In short: Stable OpenCL support = much faster processing of files. No OpenCL support = the CPU has to do everything. And the drivers with 10.8 have changed too much for PhaseOne to get OpenCL support working for CaptureOne 7. It’s scheduled for a later release, though. Cheers, -Sascha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 Hi nggalai, Take a look here C1 # 7. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Carl E Posted November 12, 2012 Share #22 Posted November 12, 2012 I am running 6 and 7 side by side but I am having problems getting the results I want from M8 DNGs in version 7. When I open the images in 7, they display as milky, greyish images in but in 6 they are OK. What am I doing wrong here? The answer I received from Phase One support was: "Perhaps there is a conflict with the OpenCL option for generating previews and the hardware of your system. Please try to turn the OpenCL (Hardware Acceleration) option in Capture One software preferences to "Never". Also, please be sure that the settings between Capture One 6 and Capture One 7 are equivalent as they do have different default values for the same file types." I will check if this works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAG Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share #23 Posted November 12, 2012 I suspect C1 to cut corners with Open CL, as since C1 - 6, there is indeed a problem with Mac : since # 6, C 1 support advise to turn Open CL to "Never". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted November 13, 2012 Share #24 Posted November 13, 2012 In both Display and Processing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted November 13, 2012 Share #25 Posted November 13, 2012 pictures look great on my macbook pro, but it has crashed several times already -- and no other processor (v6, lr4,etc are open) not a big fan of the new catalog version, but i have to learn it so could be just a habit thing....will some of the above suggestion to stabilize otherwise maybe its time to learn and use lr4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted November 13, 2012 Share #26 Posted November 13, 2012 I have had enormous problems with version 4 of C1, which were solved by PhaseOne customer service. Since then I had a few crashs with later versions and there have been compatibility issues with new versions of Mac OSX. Since V.6 it is very stabile (with Apple Snow Leopard, Lion and Mountain Lion) and I have not seen any problems with V. 7 yet, which is considerably quicker than earlier versions (though the fans of my MacBookPro have to work hard to cool down). From what I know - until now - it seems to be the version with best perfomance and best results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted November 18, 2012 Share #27 Posted November 18, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Capture One V7 claims to have a new engine that delivers startling brilliant output . However I tried a comparison from some M8 pictures: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! - original JPG, in camera - C1-6 generated JPG from Raw - C1-7 generated JPG from Raw I see no difference in the picture with the new engine. I sometimes felt the images were to 'dark' like Capture One now commercially admits for C1-6, that they solved . Have others seen the same [lack]? albert Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! - original JPG, in camera - C1-6 generated JPG from Raw - C1-7 generated JPG from Raw I see no difference in the picture with the new engine. I sometimes felt the images were to 'dark' like Capture One now commercially admits for C1-6, that they solved . Have others seen the same [lack]? albert ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/191231-c1-7/?do=findComment&comment=2169490'>More sharing options...
otto.f Posted November 18, 2012 Share #28 Posted November 18, 2012 Yes I showed a comparable lack of difference in another thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted November 18, 2012 Share #29 Posted November 18, 2012 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-post-processing-forum/261287-c1-7-6-comparison.html I tried it with a photo at night at 2500ISO. The difference was that C1 7 recognizes what has to be done immediately, and/but that I could attain the same results with C1 6, with a few seconds more work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted November 18, 2012 Share #30 Posted November 18, 2012 this thing has crashed too often now on my macbookpro, enuf is enuf ...... off to learn lr4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted November 18, 2012 Share #31 Posted November 18, 2012 I have discarded C1 7 because of too many crashes too, even after C1's advise to disable OpenCL in the Preference window. Number 6 is ok on my iMac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted November 19, 2012 Share #32 Posted November 19, 2012 I have discarded C1 7 because of too many crashes too, even after C1's advise to disable OpenCL in the Preference window. Number 6 is ok on my iMac I had the same with C1 6 by the way, on my then fast quadcore 27" the screen buildup went beserk every now an then, specifically when browsing. It surprised me the C1 support staff told me to disable the 'use hardware acceleration' tickbox too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted November 19, 2012 Share #33 Posted November 19, 2012 Yes I showed a comparable lack of difference in another thread. Thanks. I do note that dispite the difference in color temperature (or color cast, I can't attain the same value in C1) the first picture DOES (or seems to have for me) have a better shadow rendering, see the water on the left. Maybe the whole trick is that C1 has to change the profile for the camera first; now they can go further in pulling details for the same grain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
archi4 Posted November 19, 2012 Share #34 Posted November 19, 2012 I completely uninstalled C1#6 including the file in application support on my iMac as well as on my wife's older iMac. As long as I only use sessions, no problems whatsoever. The C1-7 catalog does give me problems, so I have given up on it. I recently purchased MediaPro and using media pro together with C1-7 as well as with other programs that support the Fuji XPRO1 which I use next to my M9's works effortlessly and elegantly on both the newer and 5-6 year old iMac. I can process in C1, export from MediaPro to LR4 for printing and making books - all in all very flexible. Only bug is that this version of MediaPRO cannot rebuild the DNG images processed in C1-7 (confirmed by Phase One support) Every time I try to use the C1 catalog, I get spinning wheels and crashes, so I have definitely given up on that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted November 19, 2012 Share #35 Posted November 19, 2012 "Every time I try to use the C1 catalog, I get spinning wheels and crashes" to my eye, the difference between c1 and lr is not that great to endure the above -- so its adios unless c1 comes with a solution -- which doesn't seem forthcoming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted November 19, 2012 Share #36 Posted November 19, 2012 Lots of similar complaints in the Windows section of the Phase One Capture One Version 7 forum. So there is still work to be done to make v7 perform to expectations on Windows 7 platforms. In my case I am satisfied with v7. I experience a few minor glitches, but it is generally stable and the operations I use perform as expected. I use OpenCL for both editing and processing. I use both the catalog and sessions without problem. Although much more extrerme the situation is similar to when Lightroom 4 was released. For some users LR4 performed fine while others with similar PCs experienced significant performance issues. By version 4.2 this appears to have been pretty much resolved. I expect the same will be true of Capture One 7. I did the trial of v7 to ensure it would perform properly on my system before purchase. The greatest frustration seems to come from those who upgraded without the trial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted November 19, 2012 Share #37 Posted November 19, 2012 Thanks. I do note that dispite the difference in color temperature (or color cast, I can't attain the same value in C1) the first picture DOES (or seems to have for me) have a better shadow rendering, see the water on the left. Maybe the whole trick is that C1 has to change the profile for the camera first; now they can go further in pulling details for the same grain? In my view the first one (6) is just a bit lighter as a whole, you see that in the stones too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted November 27, 2012 Share #38 Posted November 27, 2012 Hi, I've had a rough ride with V7 and it's usually smooth. What I've found is, at least on Win7 64, if you have a lot of files migrating the engine from V6 to V7 it's very, very buggy. What breaks? Multiple outputs, watermarking, and so on. If you start clean in the image directory OR don't migrate the engine to V7 (keep it at V6) then everything is ok. I like it though--the colour has more detail on output with saturated primaries, mostly (so you're not going to see it in rock pics, guys ) Reds especially are even better than previous, and this means skin improvements. BTW--by default, it has much too much NR applied! I noticed this on my 5d3 and M9--you need to cut it by at least half or it's too plastic in skin for my tastes, anyway. The next point release will, with any luck, be more stable over all! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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