jaapv Posted November 12, 2012 Share #81 Â Posted November 12, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) It has nothing to do with a next shot; it has to do with following the development of the action one is recording. So my question is not: how long before the next shot?, but how long before you can see what is happening real time (well, more or less) in the EVF again? Most cameras with an EVF need time to get going during processing and fill that time with a review of the image you just shot. Actually the Visoflex III is not bad in this respect. It blacks out some time before the shot (but one learns to anticipate) and returns the mirror immediately afterwards. An EVF is just the other way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jdlaing Posted November 12, 2012 Share #82 Â Posted November 12, 2012 It has nothing to do with a next shot; it has to do with following the development of the action one is recording. So my question is not: how long before the next shot?, but how long before you can see what is happening real time (well, more or less) in the EVF again? Most cameras with an EVF need time to get going during processing and fill that time with a review of the image you just shot. Actually the Visoflex III is not bad in this respect. It blacks out some time before the shot (but one learns to anticipate) and returns the mirror immediately afterwards. An EVF is just the other way around. Â On the short end 25 milliseconds. It, to me, is pretty instantaneous. I have no difficulty with it. If you want to bypass the playback it works the same as all the rest. Just press the shutter button halfway and it shuts off. Â I, and it is my preference, would suggest not using that screen in the add on EVF to chimp the picture. I don't think you'll like it. Better to use the LCD screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted November 12, 2012 Share #83 Â Posted November 12, 2012 PS: Â You know how on an M9 it takes a brief time for the picture to "clear up" after capture when using RAW? Â The picture in the EVF pops up faster than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 12, 2012 Share #84 Â Posted November 12, 2012 So, something like five to ten seconds. I don't chimp, btw. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted November 12, 2012 Share #85  Posted November 12, 2012 So, something like five to ten seconds. I don't chimp, btw. Thanks  No......you press the shutter button and the image is there in the screen en the EVF on less than 1/40 of a second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 12, 2012 Share #86 Â Posted November 12, 2012 You mean your EVF live view has returned in such a short span? I have no interest in seeing the image I took in the EVF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted November 12, 2012 Share #87 Â Posted November 12, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) You mean your EVF live view has returned in such a short span? I have no interest in seeing the image I took in the EVF. Â Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 12, 2012 Share #88 Â Posted November 12, 2012 Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dierk Posted January 22, 2013 Share #89 Â Posted January 22, 2013 I used the 85mm PC (for stils) and the 24mm PCE on my Nikon D3 very often, the 24mm was almost always on. As I decided to sell all Nikon besides the 85mm PC (it is a macro lens) I have to sell the great 24mm PCE as well, as there is no chance to stop down, only electronically from the body. Since Canon came up with the 17 TS-E, this was my dream lens. Now I consider this lens for the new M and the NEX7 via Metabones. In the White Paper from Metabones this lens is mentioned. That means, that the Nex7 has to control the electronic diaphragm?? Up to now I did not get any answer on my two mails to Metabones. I still hope to find a solution for the M. There is a trick to stop down the lens in a Canon body (or even the Nex7, if it really is supported), take the lens out (it should stay stopped down) and put it on the M Â Sounds crazy, right? Any other solutions? Hartblei is too long for my taste. Â .................. Regarding the adapter: Metabones makes one that permits putting the EOS lenses on NEX bodies, with electronic aperture control. It's an expensive adapter, but it opens a possibility, of course: using those Canons 17 TS & 24 TS on a Nex 5N, a combination which would render the equivalence to a 24mm & 35mm in FF, respectively. Â Regards from Barcelona, Â Manolo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted January 22, 2013 Share #90  Posted January 22, 2013 Novoflex Lens Adapter for Nikon Lens to Leica M Camera  This adapter permits control (with a ring and pin on the adapter) of the aperture for G lenses.  It has the wrong frame selection though. That would need to be changed and 6-bit coding added. Then it should work fine for G lenses on the M240, including menu lens selections.  Setting the correct aperture is easy when live on camera. Start at one end - open or closed down - watch exposure time and count the stops while turning the adapter ring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dierk Posted January 22, 2013 Share #91 Â Posted January 22, 2013 K-H. do you mean the Nikkor 24mm PCE? This lens is no G-lens. It is different and the diaphragm has no mechanical connection and there is no pin for it. No chance with this lens. Â If someone is considering the Nikkor 85/2.8 PC: I have the old version, it is a great lens and I am looking forward using it on the new M. The new PCE version has the same electronics as the 24mm and is not usable on an adapter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted January 22, 2013 Share #92 Â Posted January 22, 2013 Dierk, Â I only know about G lenses. Thanks for your explanations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrianw Posted January 25, 2013 Share #93 Â Posted January 25, 2013 Tilt shift lenses are important to me and I did (what I thought was) a lot of research. It seemed to me that the Hartblei came in 2 versions, one affordable and maybe not too good and the other very expensive, like $2-3,000. None existed in Australia, and I was not prepared to take it on good faith at that price. I quickly ignored the AP lens because it does not tilt and that is much more important to me than shifting. I contacted Schneider and was told they have no intention of doing anything for M mount. I already have Canon 24 and 90mm TS-E lenses and they are great, but the whole purpose of the M over the 5DII is weight and bulk saving. Thus, I ended up with the Canon FD (totally manual) 35mm TS lens (which is notably smaller but still beautifully made) and am yet to be able to try it as I await arrival of the Novoflex converter. In my research I Googled Canon FD TS 35/f2.8 review and found really good pictures, the third I saw was just stunning. If it can do that well it will do me! I responded to Chris Tribble's more general question on "preparing for the M" on this point as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manolo Laguillo Posted January 25, 2013 Share #94 Â Posted January 25, 2013 As I say in another thread (preparing for the M), I've just bought a 35/2.8 PC-Nikkor, with the Novoflex adapter. The real infinity point is not at the infinity symbol itself (as I could quickly check via tethering the M9 to the computer). But this will be no problem with the M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 25, 2013 Share #95 Â Posted January 25, 2013 These adapter makers seem to play a little fast and loose with the thickness of their adapters. I have been trying a borrowed Canon FD to M adapter with a Canon 300mm f4 and then M to mFT and just like my Leica 80-200 R lens, it focusses some way beyond infinity. Still this is better than not reaching infinity. I know for the Visoflex replacement adapters (copy of Leica 543195) I am having made, I have told the maker that whereas 40.999mm is acceptable, 41.001mm is not. Â Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted January 25, 2013 Share #96  Posted January 25, 2013 These adapter makers seem to play a little fast and loose with the thickness of their adapters. I have been trying a borrowed Canon FD to M adapter with a Canon 300mm f4 and then M to mFT and just like my Leica 80-200 R lens, it focusses some way beyond infinity. Still this is better than not reaching infinity. I know for the Visoflex replacement adapters (copy of Leica 543195) I am having made, I have told the maker that whereas 40.999mm is acceptable, 41.001mm is not.  Wilson   Hi Wilson,  Thanks. Excellent! How far is that project? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 25, 2013 Share #97  Posted January 25, 2013 Hi Wilson, Thanks. Excellent! How far is that project?  The machined parts have been at the chrome shop in Caracas since before Christmas. They took a month's Christmas holiday! They should be back any day now and then just have to have the finish applied and be sent to me. Because Amadeo says he is very bad at painting, we have decided to finish the barrel part in carbon fibre, which will be robust and grippy. I intend to ask for just one to be sent to me for testing and if OK, I will get yours sent direct to the US to avoid double customs duties.  Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted January 26, 2013 Share #98 Â Posted January 26, 2013 What nobody has mentioned (I think:confused:) is that the PC lens is fantastic for stitching multiple images. Even a simple pan with three shots (extreme left shift, straight on, and extreme right shift) is simply joined without perspective problems. I have tried a square-ish image by shifting at 11mm (max shift on the Super Angulon 28 f2.8 PC lens) vertically, then at 45deg, 90, 135, 180, 225, 270, 315, 360deg and combining manually in PS (most panorama apps can't cope with the offset angle shots). You do need to stop down to at least f16 with this lens for the best detail when shifted, and to take care of any focussing error. Static subjects only. Focus is trial and error, of course! Â 22228 adapter ring (R lens to M body) was developed for the Leicina movie cameras, so shooting film on M lenses has been around longer than you think! And, by coincidence, the 28mm frame comes up when fitted to an M9. There is no coupling, but the 28PC is not coupled anyway on an R (shut down metering only, there is a lever to allow focussing at f2.8 on a reflex ... M240!) Â John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 27, 2013 Share #99 Â Posted January 27, 2013 Regarding the f11 discussion around page 2-3 of this thread. I have just obtained a pristine 2.8/28 R PC-SA in even the original lens plastic wrap in the leather case. Never used. Â From the manual: Â "In the normal position the 28mm f2.8....-R has a superbly flat image plane and excellent definition. Slight stopping down to f/4 or f/5.6 improves contrast still further. In the offset position, use the full lens aperture to check composition and focusing. The best image is obtained by further stopping down, to about f/11, particularly in the extreme 11mm shift position. There is only minimal distortion and vignetting. Â A floating element coupled to the focusing drive ensures that the excellent imaging properties are also available for close-range photography." Â Thought this might help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 27, 2013 Share #100  Posted January 27, 2013 The machined parts have been at the chrome shop in Caracas since before Christmas. They took a month's Christmas holiday! They should be back any day now and then just have to have the finish applied and be sent to me. Because Amadeo says he is very bad at painting, we have decided to finish the barrel part in carbon fibre, which will be robust and grippy. I intend to ask for just one to be sent to me for testing and if OK, I will get yours sent direct to the US to avoid double customs duties.  Wilson  Can you indicate the all in price for this project, please. Thanks. Will this part replace the old Leica PN 14167? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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