sc_john Posted February 11, 2013 Share #701 Â Posted February 11, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Like Chris - I'm going for the Leica R to M adapter, because it's precoded, has a tripod mount and is generally a 'good thing'.On the other hand - 3rd party adapters are perfectly good BUT they must bring up the 28-90 if you want to code them (just saying). . . . added to which it is definitely worth coding them as the behavior when changing between coded M lenses and R lenses with the adapter is very well thought out. Â Jono, Â Thanks for the input, and thanks (to both you and Chris) for the M-240 DNG's. I have found them very reassuring. Unlike you and Chris, though, I have not yet made-up my mind on M-240. My main interest in M-240 is its potential for lenses under 28mm and over 90mm. My plan is to decide after the camera has been released and more hands-on feedback of the final camera & firmware is available. Until then I will continue using M9-P. Notwithstanding my uncertainty about M-240, I purchased an R 80-200 ROM for use on my Nikon D800e... hence questions on conversion. If I do go with M-240, I plan to revert the mount back to R and use the Leica R to M adapter for the reasons you state. Â I view this as a win/win situation for me... R 80-200 on D800e or on M-240. What's not to like! Â Best, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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k-hawinkler Posted February 11, 2013 Share #702 Â Posted February 11, 2013 Â ... Â What's not to like! Â Best, Â Â The mount conversion! I also have a D800E and shied away from the mount conversion. Instead, I got a NEX-7 and adapter for the R lens to use until the M shows up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted February 11, 2013 Share #703 Â Posted February 11, 2013 A simple adapter from Nikon to M would do. An auto f-stop is not delivered by the M240. Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted February 11, 2013 Share #704  Posted February 11, 2013 A simple adapter from Nikon to M would do. An auto f-stop is not delivered by the M240.Jan  Quite right Jan - and if you get one which brings up the 28/90 framelines you can code it and it'll bring up the list of R lenses in the menu.  all the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc_john Posted February 11, 2013 Share #705 Â Posted February 11, 2013 The mount conversion! I also have a D800E and shied away from the mount conversion. Instead, I got a NEX-7 and adapter for the R lens to use until the M shows up. Â My fear is that if I do a mount conversion, the Leica will rain bad karma upon me and/or I will be banned from L-Camera Forum for life. Â I am currently using R 80-200, on an Olympus OM-D with R-m43 adapter, but I think that is really limiting and under-utilizing the lens. Decisions, decisions, decisions... Â Best, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 11, 2013 Share #706  Posted February 11, 2013 Quite right Jan - and if you get one which brings up the 28/90 framelines you can code it and it'll bring up the list of R lenses in the menu. all the best  Are the framelines from the R adapter why you picked up a Vario 28-90? I never thought about it that way. Or did I miss something here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 12, 2013 Share #707 Â Posted February 12, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) It seems I just joined the club; a macro lens down to 10 cm without RF coupling from ca 1950 - initial tests on the MM show rather good results A Corfield Lumax 45/1.9... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted February 12, 2013 Share #708 Â Posted February 12, 2013 My fear is that if I do a mount conversion, the Leica will rain bad karma upon me and/or I will be banned from L-Camera Forum for life. , Â Lots of my shots here are taken with my D700 and R lenses. I don't own any Nikon lenses. Â In my experience, the ROM chip unscrews from the lens and doesn't need to be broken from anything (28 Elmarit-R) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share #709 Â Posted February 12, 2013 It seems I just joined the club; a macro lens down to 10 cm without RF coupling from ca 1950 - initial tests on the MM show rather good results A Corfield Lumax 45/1.9... Â Ahah - it does get a bit addictive! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share #710  Posted February 12, 2013 This is still on-topic as it relates to looking after the M240 once you've got hold of it. My main tripod has a Manfrotto Junior head on it and I am fully satisfied with this. However, for travel / trekking I use a Gitzo Traveller (mk1) - but have grown to dislike the screw plate for attaching the camera (and the marks it left on the base-plate) + I wanted something with a QR plate + panning. I know if I was a real photographer I'd have gone for Arca-Swiss or RRS, but somehow my "value-for-money" soul wouldn't let me spend that much (I got my tripod via ebay for a very small sum!). So I did a bit of research and came up with a small UK company called Red Snapper. They sell a really nice looking line of tripods and heads (lord knows where they source them from) with Arca-Swiss type plates. For £24.95 I felt I couldn't go wrong with their RSH-61 (Redsnapper RSH-61 Ball Head) and got one.  Well - OK it's not as neat as the latest versions from Gitzo, but it's pretty damn good. The asymmetric ball + pan control work very smoothly and it's rock solid with an M on it. Some snaps below. Recommended! (oh - and the good news is that the slightly tacky logo comes off with nail varnish remover!) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/190687-preparing-for-the-m/?do=findComment&comment=2240855'>More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 12, 2013 Share #711 Â Posted February 12, 2013 It seems I just joined the club; a macro lens down to 10 cm without RF coupling from ca 1950 - initial tests on the MM show rather good results A Corfield Lumax 45/1.9... Â EHM... .... unless you try some gimnyck for Viso/Bellows adapting... the next move is already written in stone... Â (btw... is the Lumax a "Made in Germany" engraved ? Enna if I remember correctly... ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 18, 2013 Share #712  Posted February 18, 2013 My Visoflex replacement adapter has arrived today from Amedeo Muscelli. The dimensions are correct at 40.995mm, it brings up the 28/90 framelines and the coding pits are in the correct location. I have checked that I can focus very slightly beyond infinity on a 280 Telyt S3, which I can also on with a Visoflex III, so that is fine.  The only problem is that Amedeo has machined the lugs on the male bayonet, slightly too small, so that the adapter is a somewhat loose fit and can be rocked by a small amount on the camera body. With the length of lenses we can use of up to 800mm, sadly this is not acceptable. The female bayonet is very firm and allows no movement at all. I have told Amedeo and had a somewhat plaintive email back, saying : "I suppose that means I have to re-machine the whole batch of male bayonets and get them chromed again." Sadly, the answer is yes. I have asked Amedeo just to send me a replacement bayonet, which I will change, as it is only 3 Torx screws. I had suggested he waited until I had checked the whole thing out, before he went into production.  Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/190687-preparing-for-the-m/?do=findComment&comment=2246587'>More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share #713  Posted February 18, 2013 What a pity - makes you realise what a good job Leica do  I suppose the good news is that the M240's a bit slower coming than we'd hoped, so we can manage for the moment. We can also continue to use our visoflex housings as extension tubes if there's a big delay! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 19, 2013 Share #714  Posted February 19, 2013 My Visoflex replacement adapter has arrived today from Amedeo Muscelli. The dimensions are correct at 40.995mm, it brings up the 28/90 framelines and the coding pits are in the correct location. I have checked that I can focus very slightly beyond infinity on a 280 Telyt S3, which I can also on with a Visoflex III, so that is fine.  The only problem is that Amedeo has machined the lugs on the male bayonet, slightly too small, so that the adapter is a somewhat loose fit and can be rocked by a small amount on the camera body. With the length of lenses we can use of up to 800mm, sadly this is not acceptable. The female bayonet is very firm and allows no movement at all. I have told Amedeo and had a somewhat plaintive email back, saying : "I suppose that means I have to re-machine the whole batch of male bayonets and get them chromed again." Sadly, the answer is yes. I have asked Amedeo just to send me a replacement bayonet, which I will change, as it is only 3 Torx screws. I had suggested he waited until I had checked the whole thing out, before he went into production.  Wilson  I have that same lens I believe. Telyt 280/4.8 works on the Viso III only (for me). That adapter could be interesting for me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted February 19, 2013 Share #715 Â Posted February 19, 2013 Hi Wilson, Â Many thanks for your dedicated effort staying on top of this project. In the end, getting it right, is also better for Amedeo Muscelli. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 19, 2013 Share #716 Â Posted February 19, 2013 I have to admit to being a bit surprised that Amedeo did not get this 100% right. I have one of his Contax RF to Leica M focusing adapters and there is no play at all on the male M bayonet. I would have thought he would have used the same part of the CNC file that he used for the Contax adapter as part of the CNC files to machine the male M bayonets for this adapter. If this was the case, the dimensions should have been identical. On the other hand, I can see he has had to alter the file slightly to bring up the 28/90 framelines and move the coding pits a fraction. My early Contax RF to M adapter, has the coding pits milled a fraction too far anti clockwise, whereas the ones on the Visoflex adapter look to be perfect. Â Ah well - probably plenty of time before the new M arrives. Algrove - I will send you a PM when all sorted. The arrangement is that you will order direct from and pay Amedeo, to avoid double postage and for non-EU buyers, double tax. I got away without paying import duty this time via Fedex - usual lottery. Â Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 19, 2013 Share #717 Â Posted February 19, 2013 I don't know how Amedeo workshop is organized... but I find a bit strange that he has to MACHINE M male bayonets : I think that, generally speaking, it ought to be a standard component, rather easy to find for a lab... when I got a custom-made adapter in Milano, the lab's owner told me that the male M bayonet he needed wasn't a problem to source. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 19, 2013 Share #718 Â Posted February 19, 2013 Actually the Chinese ones from eBay are pretty good. But maybe craftman's pride stands in the way of purchase Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 19, 2013 Share #719 Â Posted February 19, 2013 I don't know how Amedeo workshop is organized... but I find a bit strange that he has to MACHINE M male bayonets : I think that, generally speaking, it ought to be a standard component, rather easy to find for a lab... when I got a custom-made adapter in Milano, the lab's owner told me that the male M bayonet he needed wasn't a problem to source. Â Luigi, Â I think it was because of the way he wanted to connect the bayonet to the tube with a tubular flange, rather than being screwed onto the end surface of the tube, with a flat flange. Â Jaap, Â Unlike many of the chinese adapters, Amedeo's are machined from very high quality brass, which is then hard chromed for longevity, rather than quite soft aluminium that many of the chinese adapters use for both male and female bayonets. I know the chinese M to micro 4/3 rd's adapter I have, is horrible and only fits where it touches. In due course, I will probably get a Elephoto or Rayqual one to replace it. Â Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfgrolf Posted February 19, 2013 Share #720 Â Posted February 19, 2013 Do you happen to have some contact details or more information about his works? I might have some work for him as well :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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