Jeff S Posted October 15, 2012 Share #21 Posted October 15, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I won't disagree with you about colour. but for B&W I think it is a step down to use a filter. Like lct, I use cut filter for b/w as well as color, with great result. Step down?...did you ever shoot b/w film? Leica even recommends use of filters with the MM under some circumstances to optimize b/w results. Step down? Hardly, if the situation demands. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jerren Posted October 15, 2012 Share #22 Posted October 15, 2012 Good grief man! I just noticed the b&w pic with all the spots. I've never seen so much dust on a sensor. I wonder what happened? I think I'd be a bit alarmed if I got a camera in this condition. And yes, I'd have to suggest sending it off for a proper cleaning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 15, 2012 Share #23 Posted October 15, 2012 M8 sensors are not more difficult to clean out than other ones. Takes a couple of minutes with Eclipse & Sensor Swabs amongst other cleaning solutions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share #24 Posted October 15, 2012 Good grief man! I just noticed the b&w pic with all the spots. I've never seen so much dust on a sensor. I wonder what happened? I think I'd be a bit alarmed if I got a camera in this condition. And yes, I'd have to suggest sending it off for a proper cleaning. Bear in mind that pic was intentionally contrasted, sharpened and every thing else I could do to exaggerate the issue. I bet most sensors would show some dust if anyone did that (the pic above it showing a few spots is a normal view at around f10). I have just checked the shutter actuation count and it is just 8798 of which I must have clocked up over 1k already - the camera is in mint condition so can only think it was clumsy lens changing by the former owner as I have been super careful. I am going to be at Leica in Mayfair on Friday as it happens on business (I am the publisher of The British Journal of Photography) so will ask them to clean it...don't trust myself!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted October 16, 2012 Share #25 Posted October 16, 2012 Welcome to the M8 Club! All yer points have been addressed well by the others BUT an obvious point regarding your sensor dust (and the dust on every sensor for that matter!) has not been mentioned as of yet. Which is: The Visibility of the dust on your sensor is tremendously variable depending on what aperture any particular image is shot at. The wider the aperture / the less it's visible & the narrower the aperure / the more it it's visible. I don't have the exact physics at hand to cite, but as the aperture gets smaller the lightrays are bent to travel much more parrallel by the opening and not leak around edges of the dust nearly as well than when at wide apertures. Thus making for better silhouette making when shooting at f16 than at f1.2. (hope i didnt butcher that simile!) BTW: If you really want to terrify yourself over sensor dust... Clean your sensor then slap a f116 pinhole lens on the camera! :eek:Is how you'll look opening the images on your computer. Doing that sure brought me down to earth regarding reality of dust on imaging sensors, ;-) Yes, as has been noted already, the use of lots of adjustments, sharpening, etc will severely exacerbate the visibility of small dust spots, but differences in aperture will just as surely exacerbate them, too. Dust is ALWAYS present on Digital Imaging Sensors. ( though dramatically less so, it's still true even in 'clean rooms' in lab settings) The key is making it irrelevant dust in both size and quantity for reasonable intervals. Sincerely Richard in Michigan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramosa Posted October 16, 2012 Share #26 Posted October 16, 2012 welcome to M8-hood ... yes, to deal with your color problem, you'd need to use UV/IR filters. i have had an M8 for five years. until the last year, i did use UV/IR filters on my lenses, but i have recently moved away from that, as i shoot mostly in B&W. yes, your sensor needs a good "bath." i suspect a blower won't do the job, but i'd try that first, of course. if that doesn't work, then you'll need something more intensive. i use a few things from visible dust. not cheap, but very effective. you may need swabs and a liquid cleaner. that's a last step for me, but, by the looks of your images, that may be necessary. i also have a zeeion blower, which is great for dealing with the M8's problem with sensor static, and a sensor loop, which really help you get a good, lit view of your sensor. all that said, i am very rarely concerned with sensor dust. i only deal with it when it is really troubling on an image--and, in such cases, a blower is the solution almost every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share #27 Posted October 16, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks guys, all useful and helpful advice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share #28 Posted October 23, 2012 Thanks for advice all. The Leica is currently with Leica in Mayfair for a sensor clean and hot pixel fix. I have also decided to replace the 35mm Voigtlander with Leica glass - would love the Summilux but more realistically the Summicron is more within budget...although there are some older (1980's) Summilux's out there for similar money to a newer Summicron - thoughts on what would be a better bet appreciated! In the meantime I have set up a new flickr account just to post some favourite pics taken with the lovely Leica - my existing account has 30k+ photos in it, I tend to use it as a backup as much as anything else. Here is the new account, any comments welcomed and feel free to be honest, I am learning. Thanks. Flickr: marchartog's Photostream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 24, 2012 Share #29 Posted October 24, 2012 Please post images in the photoforums! Do have a look at the M9 FAQ on top of that forum. many of your questions have been addressed there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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