chalun823 Posted May 12, 2012 Share #1 Posted May 12, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I noticed in the video about Peter Ferrerira posted on the leica ag site commenting on the new 50 cron that he is using a thumbs up with a radio trigger for his strobes. The only connection between his trigger and his m9 is on the thumbs up's "hotshoe". From what I know thumbs up never came with a hotshoe. Am I missing something here? Screen cap from the video attached! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/179263-thumbs-up-with-a-hotshoe-in-leica-ags-peter-ferreira-video/?do=findComment&comment=2009452'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Hi chalun823, Take a look here Thumbs up with a hotshoe in Leica AG's "Peter Ferreira" video. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
trylab Posted May 12, 2012 Share #2 Posted May 12, 2012 You can order ThumbsUp with a hotshoe holder. TUCSEP... not TUEP... But you can't use it as a HOTshoe for flash, only as a holder for VF (or radiotrigger). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalun823 Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share #3 Posted May 12, 2012 Hi trylab, I am aware that you are able to order one which can hold a viewfinder etc. But in the video you can see the radio trigger working through the thumbsup as he releases the shutter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted May 12, 2012 Share #4 Posted May 12, 2012 He must have had it modified. For strobes you don't need TTL, so a ground and single contact to the center post, is all you need. Thumbs up comes cold shoe only... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trylab Posted May 12, 2012 Share #5 Posted May 12, 2012 I don't think we need to modify it? Bowens Pulsar have a singel center post (I think, from photos), and so does the Thumbs Up. My black TU w/hot (cold) shoe is made of brass and well grounded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted May 12, 2012 Share #6 Posted May 12, 2012 My TU blocks the center post, so no contact can be made, but it is well grounded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalun823 Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share #7 Posted May 12, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Very interesting.... The reason why I have yet to get a thumbs up is because I do not want to remove it every time I use a flash trigger. Whatever Peter is using is something that I want to get my hands on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted May 12, 2012 Share #8 Posted May 12, 2012 Just get a 'Thumbie' and then the problem doesn't even arise M8/M9 Thumbie | La Vida Leica! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted May 13, 2012 Share #9 Posted May 13, 2012 Just get a 'Thumbie' and then the problem doesn't even ariseM8/M9 Thumbie | La Vida Leica! I did, but it keeps on coming off. They sent me more tape, but it still comes off after about two weeks... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted May 13, 2012 Share #10 Posted May 13, 2012 Interesting. Neither of mine have come off after 5 months of use. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 17, 2012 Share #11 Posted May 17, 2012 I did, but it keeps on coming off. They sent me more tape, but it still comes off after about two weeks... I sent you more tape. If you need some more let me know. Also let me know the conditions you are using it in and perhaps I can suggest a fix if it is an extreme environment. Send me a pm with the details. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caipiao Posted May 26, 2012 Share #12 Posted May 26, 2012 I don't think we need to modify it? Bowens Pulsar have a singel center post (I think, from photos), and so does the Thumbs Up. My black TU w/hot (cold) shoe is made of brass and well grounded. Has anyone tried this combo yet? Does this mean that if I got a pair of Pulsars and slid one in the cold shoe of the TU (and attach the other to the speedlight for example) and the whole thing would magically work? without TTL of course but works? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 26, 2012 Share #13 Posted May 26, 2012 Has anyone tried this combo yet? Does this mean that if I got a pair of Pulsars and slid one in the cold shoe of the TU (and attach the other to the speedlight for example) and the whole thing would magically work? without TTL of course but works? No because the TU does not have a connection to the hot shoe of the camera, what you see on the TU is a bolt that clamps down tightly on the hot shoe to hold it in place, and please see Jaap's thread about his fragile hot shoe 'problem' titled !@#$%^. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caipiao Posted May 27, 2012 Share #14 Posted May 27, 2012 No because the TU does not have a connection to the hot shoe of the camera, what you see on the TU is a bolt that clamps down tightly on the hot shoe to hold it in place, and please see Jaap's thread about his fragile hot shoe 'problem' titled !@#$%^. Steve hey Steve - I do use a TU on the m9 that's why I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that video and have been trying to figure out how to get a TU, radio trgger and M9 to work... to no avail so far. I do understand with the thumbie it would all work - just being stubborn and don't want to throw the TU away, yet... all experts: any idea how Pedro did it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted May 27, 2012 Share #15 Posted May 27, 2012 I talked to Tim Isaac and made him aware of the Leica Video. He believes it's a fake, being the flash was added later. I asked him why did he not make a TU that was flash friendly. He said he did design one and even made a prototype, but felt that there were not enough flash users in the M community. So if you want to have a flash capable TU, we need to let him know. Email him He is keeping track of those interested and welcomes customer input. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted May 28, 2012 Share #16 Posted May 28, 2012 I watched that video- no way is it fake... I mean why would anyone bother- just so they can get a Thumbs Up in the shot? That's a lot of post processing and special affects for seemingly nothing. Tim may think Leica loves his device enough to do that but I severely doubt it....You can see the strobes activating when the camera is fired. Peter mentions that he ALWAYS uses flash- so my guess is he had his thumbs up modified somehow- as it's the only way he could use it- and use flash... It wouldn't be too hard to drill out and add some type of contact I imagine? (ask Tim to have a look and see where his prototype got too- perhaps Peter stole it?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundestrainer Posted May 28, 2012 Share #17 Posted May 28, 2012 Why don't ask Peter Ferreira himself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted May 29, 2012 Share #18 Posted May 29, 2012 I have been talking about this with Tim Isaac, It might not be so hard to modify a TU for a flash trigger, like a PocketWizard or the such. The difficult thing would be to modify it for TTL. We agree that it would be easier to modify a TU rather than fake that video, and Peter Ferreira is a fan of TU and lighting control. Tim Isaac has mentioned that he might contact Peter Ferreira, himself to see what he has done. Hopefully I have convinced Mr. Isaac to revisit flash in some form for TU. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 29, 2012 Share #19 Posted May 29, 2012 Not by a Thumbs-up, but the hot shoe is a weak spot, just four little screws... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/179263-thumbs-up-with-a-hotshoe-in-leica-ags-peter-ferreira-video/?do=findComment&comment=2026046'>More sharing options...
swamiji Posted May 29, 2012 Share #20 Posted May 29, 2012 Not by a Thumbs-up, but the hot shoe is a weak spot, just four little screws... But wait a minute you sat on your camera with a SF24D attached... it more likely was at an angle, for all you know having a thumbs up, might have protected this breakage point. True the damage might have been elsewhere, but assuming that a Thumbs-up would cause such a problem is not a certainty. By the way, what was the damage on the flash? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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