carl zeiss jena Posted April 27, 2012 Share #1 Posted April 27, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi everybody, after 35years in optics I thought I´d seen it all, wrong, I would appreciate some help here. I found an old Rodenstock lens, probably just post war 1949 engraved " Rodenstock - Erinar 1 : 3,5 f = 135 mm" with an Leica M39 Leitz thread. Manual aperture setting towards the front element from 3,5 to 32, lens barrel is in the typical post war matt chrome finish, focus in meters down to 1,5. About 125 mm long at most 55 mm in diameter. All lenses (probably a triplet) are single layer MgF coated. Wanted to put it up in the Bay but funny, I can´t find anything about this lens on the web ? Anybody come across this lens ever ? Came out of a company building clearance (Rodenstock HQ in Munich is moving), could have been a prototype ? Best regards from sunny Munich Georg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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luigi bertolotti Posted April 27, 2012 Share #2 Posted April 27, 2012 I thought "erinar" was a brand of cheap cameras from Japan ('50s/'60s, maybe even "miniature")... no idea about your lens... "Eurynar" is a well known breed of Rodenstock lenses for MF/LF... the only "official" M39 Rodenstock lens I remember is a 35mm 2,8 (Heligon - mainly made for Retinas iirc) Has your lens also the RF coupling cam or is it simply a 39x1 screw mount ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted April 27, 2012 Share #3 Posted April 27, 2012 Rodenstock never made an Erinar lens. They did however, make the Trinar - is it possible that you are not reading the inscription properly? Best, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted April 27, 2012 Share #4 Posted April 27, 2012 Rodenstock never made an Erinar lens. They did however, make the Trinar - is it possible that you are not reading the inscription properly? Best, Jan Shadow of my youth... at 19, I bought a cheap BW enlarger ("Lupa" - Made in Italy) with a 50mm Trinar lens (and stlii have it somewhere...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted April 28, 2012 Share #5 Posted April 28, 2012 May I suggest that a picture or two would be helpful. The old man from the Triplet Age Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl zeiss jena Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share #6 Posted April 29, 2012 Dear all, thanks for the lively discussion, attached some pics. which I should have added in the first place, hope they work and open, hade to reduce size/format. Bets regards Georg Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/178142-old-rodenstock-erinar-135mm-lens-for-leica-m39/?do=findComment&comment=1996484'>More sharing options...
someonenameddavid Posted April 29, 2012 Share #7 Posted April 29, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) It looks like it is unfinished: the two holes on the bottom resemble the tripod mounting points on the longer Leitz lenses, but without the mounting "foot". A prototype??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted April 29, 2012 Share #8 Posted April 29, 2012 Rangefinder cam present, it looks... and very similar to the Leitz Hektor... interesting, but mystery remains... there is a "standard" (apparently) serial number... I even wonder if they took one of their lenses for large format and machined in house a "Leica" focusing mount to test if results were good... then abandoned the idea and the lens went "away" (employees, dealer or similar) Have you a Leica screw mount to verify if it focuses ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl zeiss jena Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share #9 Posted May 1, 2012 Will check focus on a M39 mount body and let you know Rgds Georg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl zeiss jena Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share #10 Posted May 1, 2012 Here´s the picture, taken with a digital M39 body. Distance scale / engraving on lens matches with actual distance to objects. Taken right now at 1/200 and f / 5,6 by hand, no tripod just opened the window. Thanks for your input, best regards Georg Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/178142-old-rodenstock-erinar-135mm-lens-for-leica-m39/?do=findComment&comment=1998561'>More sharing options...
pico Posted May 1, 2012 Share #11 Posted May 1, 2012 Here´s the picture, taken with a digital M39 body.Distance scale / engraving on lens matches with actual distance to objects.[...] But you used a NEX-5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted May 1, 2012 Share #12 Posted May 1, 2012 Here´s the picture, taken with a digital M39 body......best regards Georg But you used a NEX-5. I was wondering who makes a digital M39 body.... Best, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl zeiss jena Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share #13 Posted May 1, 2012 Correct, Nex-5 with M39 adapter, gave me the right "Auflagemass" = distance film plane to mount level, sorry, missing the correct english term....... obviously can`t fool you guys, but did´t want to advertise posting on a Leica forum and not having a single Leica body.......Georg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl zeiss jena Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share #14 Posted May 9, 2012 Hi there, on the German Leica Forum I got a hint to check Hartmut Thiele´s book on "Rodenstock lenses for German Cameras", so I bought the 2007 issue and on page 19 I could identifiy it by the Serial No that my lens was built 1951 as one of only two samples for Leica M39, i.e. No 2 313 195 and 2 313 196. However the author says the engraving "Yronar" whereby in reality it was engraved "Erinar". Will try to contact him as he seems to live nearby in Munich. Case closed and thanks for the discussion. Georg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theseus12 Posted March 31, 2013 Share #15 Posted March 31, 2013 Found this thread while searching on information on Leica Mount Rodenstock lenses. I have a Rodenstock-Tele-Eurynar 100mm 1:3.5 lens with a m39 mount. I can't find much information on it at all. It sounds similar and looks similar to your lens just at a different focal length. Were you able to find out anything else? Thanks, Ryan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl zeiss jena Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share #16 Posted June 2, 2013 Hi there, sorry for answering so late. Yes, Mr. Thiele´s booklet gives account of two trial lenses 3,5 135 made by Rodenstock Munich for Leica M39 Leitz, one of them is matching my lens´s number. Just the engraving is different "Erinar" instead of "Yronar". I have put some pictures of the lens in the German Leica forum, just google Rodenstock Erinar 135 M39 and Leicaforum Good luck with your search. Georg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theseus12 Posted June 5, 2013 Share #17 Posted June 5, 2013 Thank you for getting back to me. I ended up selling mine on E-bay for a premium. Definitely rare pieces. I probably will never see one again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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