didier Posted June 8, 2021 Share #421 Posted June 8, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 1/26/2017 at 2:04 PM, Paul J said: I have a very good copy as well that I would never part with. I fit in to the category of having one that wasn't great but came back from Leica a new lens that blew me away. You are right, it's impossibly beautiful. So do I. I had mine coded and serviced in Wetzlar a few years ago, and since then it is a dream Lens. Don’t use it often, but oh my.. how wonderful for portraits wide open... the buttery smooth bokeh... On 6/1/2021 at 11:02 PM, pgk said: Its a surprisingly good all-round lens +1 Stopped down it is excellent and tack sharp. Just a little heavy for a go-to lens 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 Hi didier, Take a look here 75 Summilux. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
didier Posted June 8, 2021 Share #422 Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10M + lux 75 Edited June 8, 2021 by didier 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10M + lux 75 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/173284-75-summilux/?do=findComment&comment=4216211'>More sharing options...
didier Posted June 8, 2021 Share #423 Posted June 8, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! (Formerly posted - SL601 with lux 75) 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! (Formerly posted - SL601 with lux 75) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/173284-75-summilux/?do=findComment&comment=4216220'>More sharing options...
adan Posted June 8, 2021 Share #424 Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, didier said: Just a little heavy for a go-to lens Which is why I use the Voigtlander Nokton 75mm f/1.5 - 335g. But I won't sully this thread with its output. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 9, 2021 Share #425 Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, didier said: ..... a little heavy for a go-to lens It balances very well with the SL though. Bigger, heavier camera with appropriately sized and weighted lens. I'm enjoying it on the SL more than I thought I would. Caveat; I also used it on the Sony A7II but the ergonomics just didn't work for me all that well - funny! Edited June 9, 2021 by pgk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 24, 2021 Share #426 Posted June 24, 2021 Couldn't resist. Propped on a table. SL and 75 Summilux wide open. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/173284-75-summilux/?do=findComment&comment=4225743'>More sharing options...
adan Posted June 24, 2021 Share #427 Posted June 24, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 6/9/2021 at 2:31 AM, pgk said: It balances very well with the SL though........ Caveat; I also used it on the Sony A7II but the ergonomics just didn't work for me all that well - funny! I will bet that is due to the taller SL body and grip. Back in the 90s, I used Kyocera/Contax for a while. First body was the stylish and svelte ST, and I fould its short grip to be - painful - with heavier lenses (no room for my little finger, and the sharpish base corner dug into my palm). The taller (by a finger-width) Contax RX was much more comfortable, even though heavier. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contax#/media/File:Contax_RTS_III_with_1.4,_50mm_lens.JPG About the only time in my life where I found a larger, heavier camera to be more comfortable. https://www.cameraegg.org/leica-sl-vs-sony-a7rii-vs-canon-5ds-r-size-comparison/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 25, 2021 Share #428 Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, adan said: I will bet that is due to the taller SL body and grip. Back in the 90s, I used Kyocera/Contax for a while. First body was the stylish and svelte ST, and I fould its short grip to be - painful - with heavier lenses (no room for my little finger, and the sharpish base corner dug into my palm). The taller (by a finger-width) Contax RX was much more comfortable, even though heavier. I do think that ergonomics versus style is a lesson which manufacturers tend to forget and constantly need reminding about. I still remember the OM1 fondly as being a very comfortable camera to use (actuall in size terms it wasn't that ar from an M). The Pentax MX too things a little too far. Later there was a bit of a revolution in ergonomics with contoured grips built in. Leica's current M handgrip attachments seem to me to have devolved back to being clunky and ergonomically poor - they could take lessons from the current Aplas in style and use of materials, as well as some of the aftermarket grip makers for ergonomics, and produce some really good grips if they considered what they were trying to achieve. The SL balances very well with the 75mm Summilux though and makes me wonder which 20 and 35 M lenses (not necessarily Leica) would compliment it as well? I might ask the question in the SL section. Edited June 25, 2021 by pgk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR120 Posted June 25, 2021 Share #429 Posted June 25, 2021 Had a 75 Lux many years ago. Had to sell it for SLR gear needed for other work at that time. Regretted that move the day I sold it. Have another one now along with it's brother (80 Lux) that I use with an SL2-S. These two are my most used Leica lenses. I will never sell them again. Here's the 75 Lux Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 13 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/173284-75-summilux/?do=findComment&comment=4226089'>More sharing options...
OR120 Posted June 25, 2021 Share #430 Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) Here's it's brother -my 80 Lux - a perfect pair -- FOR ME Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited June 25, 2021 by OR120 sp 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/173284-75-summilux/?do=findComment&comment=4226090'>More sharing options...
adan Posted June 25, 2021 Share #431 Posted June 25, 2021 6 hours ago, pgk said: The SL balances very well with the 75mm Summilux though and makes me wonder which 20 and 35 M lenses (not necessarily Leica) would compliment it as well? I might ask the question in the SL section. The 21mm Elmarit-M pre-ASPH is a very good match with the 75 Summilux in color and general imaging. Comes from the same Mandler/Canada "Class of 1980." Also E60. But I don't know how well it plays with the SL sensor/firmware - it needs a LOT of Italian-Flag correction (well-handled by M firmware, if coded). The 1980 35 Summicron-M v.4 is similar, but a bit less cyan/green in color. (You didn't ask, but for completeness - most of the 1980-era lenses have a certain family resemblance, including the earlier 50 Summilux v.2, 90 cron E55, 28 Elmarit v.3, and 135 Elmarit.) If you look at Erwin Puts' M-lenses Souls and Secrets .pdf, on page 18-19, you can find a "color table" for some lenses as of 2002. The ones from 1980 tend to run high in green (>4) and/or low in red (≤3), which gives that signature color. Which my own experience matches. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/images/3/3a/Puts-2002-M-lenses.pdf 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldhrads Posted June 25, 2021 Share #432 Posted June 25, 2021 On 6/8/2021 at 3:42 PM, didier said: So do I. I had mine coded and serviced in Wetzlar a few years ago, and since then it is a dream Lens. Don’t use it often, but oh my.. how wonderful for portraits wide open... the buttery smooth bokeh... +1 Stopped down it is excellent and tack sharp. Just a little heavy for a go-to lens Same experience, mine was good, went to Wetzlar for coding, came back amazing. I should use it more often! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR120 Posted June 25, 2021 Share #433 Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, adan said: The 21mm Elmarit-M pre-ASPH is a very good match with the 75 Summilux in color and general imaging. Comes from the same Mandler/Canada "Class of 1980." Also E60. But I don't know how well it plays with the SL sensor/firmware - it needs a LOT of Italian-Flag correction (well-handled by M firmware, if coded). The 1980 35 Summicron-M v.4 is similar, but a bit less cyan/green in color. (You didn't ask, but for completeness - most of the 1980-era lenses have a certain family resemblance, including the earlier 50 Summilux v.2, 90 cron E55, 28 Elmarit v.3, and 135 Elmarit.) If you look at Erwin Puts' M-lenses Souls and Secrets .pdf, on page 18-19, you can find a "color table" for some lenses as of 2002. The ones from 1980 tend to run high in green (>4) and/or low in red (≤3), which gives that signature color. Which my own experience matches. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/images/3/3a/Puts-2002-M-lenses.pdf Adan - Thank you for the 'M-lenses Souls and Secrets' - also enjoyed page 62 - regarding 75 Lux and 90 Summicron Edited June 25, 2021 by OR120 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alainD Posted July 1, 2021 Share #434 Posted July 1, 2021 Some pictures I'd like to share with my 75mm Summilux on an M10 Monochrom. Just snapshots, hand held, but I like the results. Alain Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/173284-75-summilux/?do=findComment&comment=4229869'>More sharing options...
ibramr Posted July 12, 2021 Share #435 Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) Leica M240 with Summilux 75mm. These shots are for comparison with similar work by the Noctilux 50mm f0.95 posted in Karbe's thread here only two weeks ago. All shorts were taken in the National Mall, Washington, DC during which I revisited Henry Moore's Sculpture Garden of the Hirshhorn Museum. Please opine on the difference in rendering between the two lenses. I am inclined to prefer the Noctilux, but am not really sure. Please let me know of your thoughts. Of course, resolution improves considerably when all shots are viewed on the light-box. Thank you. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 12, 2021 by ibramr Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/173284-75-summilux/?do=findComment&comment=4236762'>More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 12, 2021 Share #436 Posted July 12, 2021 Thanks for this @ibramr. An interesting comparison. I assume they were taken at comparable apertures? F/1.4? It doesn’t really matter much, as they are taken on the same day and almost the same framing. I’m not surprised that the Noctilux is sharper than the Summilux - it is a more modern lens. If both lenses were stopped down, the difference would be less, I’m guessing. The colour cast of the Noctilux is warmer than the Summilux, and it also has a smoother treatment of the out of focus areas, which should not be surprising as the 75 Summilux was a design based on the 50 Summilux (which I assume was in turn influenced by Mandler’s design of the f/1 Noctilux). I have never been a fan of the swirly bokeh of the f/1 Noctilux, and I’m not surprised to see traces of it in the second and third images above. I also prefer the image taken with the Noctilux. Cheers John 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted July 12, 2021 Share #437 Posted July 12, 2021 2 hours ago, IkarusJohn said: ....hich should not be surprising as the 75 Summilux was a design based on the 50 Summilux (which I assume was in turn influenced by Mandler’s design of the f/1 Noctilux). The Mandler 50 Summilux came well before the f/1.0 Noctilux - 1961 (50 Summilux 2/"3") vs. 1976 (Noctilux f/1.0). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted July 12, 2021 Share #438 Posted July 12, 2021 Are these sculptures preliminary studies for Star Wars? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 12, 2021 Share #439 Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, adan said: The Mandler 50 Summilux came well before the f/1.0 Noctilux - 1961 (50 Summilux 2/"3") vs. 1976 (Noctilux f/1.0). And yet the 75 Summilux was released after. I think it was Erwin who said the 75 Summilux was based on the 50 Summilux - do I have that round the wrong way? Was the 75 Summilux based on the f/1 Noctilux? I should just check the Compendium, I guess … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 12, 2021 Share #440 Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, IkarusJohn said: And yet the 75 Summilux was released after. I think it was Erwin who said the 75 Summilux was based on the 50 Summilux - do I have that round the wrong way? Was the 75 Summilux based on the f/1 Noctilux? I should just check the Compendium, I guess … Karbe explains his derivation of the 50 Summilux ASPH (page 1), then references Mandler’s inspiration for the 75 Summilux ASPH (page 2), and how that in turn influenced him… https://www.shutterbug.com/content/leica-lens-saga-interview-peter-karbe Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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