wizard Posted February 8, 2012 Share #41 Posted February 8, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) That is just the stupidest thing I have ever heard. The Vulcanite material is "No longer available"??? What??? Doesn't anybody MAKE anything anymore??? The reason for this change is that Leica didn't order enough of the Vulcanite to take them through M9 production this year and now do not want to order another batch, probably because the minimum order size is too large and the M10 will use something different. This "new" material was probably "in stock" with the supplier. The other scenario I've seen is that the supplier ran the wrong material and now doesn't want to get stuck, so he's telling Leica that the Vulcanite is unavailable (my guess is they blamed the tool). It sounds as if Leica could use some improvement in their global sourcing department. Easy guys, Leica stopped the current "Vulcanite" covering, but there will be a new, similar covering offered shortly. It will be better than the current one, better in that it has a more matte finish, more in line with the original Vulkanit of the M2, M3 and so on. So help is on its way, it just takes a little patience! Cheers, Andy P.S.: I just realize that the link as quoted in the first post already confirms what I have been saying. So why the uproar? We will be getting better stuff in lieu of the old one, so no reason at all to complain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Hi wizard, Take a look here Vulcanite being discontinued. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
IWC Doppel Posted February 8, 2012 Share #42 Posted February 8, 2012 I do prefer the look of the slightly darker black M9-P grip (that I saw following a friend buying in) comparison to my M8, but when I do get my M9-P I will be a happy bunny anyway. Would a purhcse 2 weeks ago be old skin or new do you think ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_n Posted February 8, 2012 Share #43 Posted February 8, 2012 I'd like to see Leica covering their cameras with Griptac. I use 3 Ms, one is covered by Griptac, one by real vulcanite and one by faux vulcanite. Griptac is the most non-slip surface. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 8, 2012 Share #44 Posted February 8, 2012 I asked the Service Department in NJ this week about all this rumor and Carmen said Vulcanite like the covering on the original M9 has NOT been discontinued. Yesterday I got my M9 upgrade back with new Vulcanite on it. Forget rumors go to the source and stop all this talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted February 8, 2012 Share #45 Posted February 8, 2012 Vulcan hell!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 8, 2012 Share #46 Posted February 8, 2012 I asked the Service Department in NJ this week about all this rumor and Carmen said Vulcanite like the covering on the original M9 has NOT been discontinued... I'm being confused now. I thought the original M9 had neither true nor faux vulcanite. True (rubber) vulcanite was for film Ms. Faux (plastic) vulcanite was/is for M8.2 and M9-P. And it is this faux vulcanite which would be available no longer. Am i missing something here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafoofan Posted February 9, 2012 Share #47 Posted February 9, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm being confused now. I thought the original M9 had neither true nor faux vulcanite. True (rubber) vulcanite was for film Ms. Faux (plastic) vulcanite was/is for M8.2 and M9-P. And it is this faux vulcanite which would be available no longer. Am i missing something here? No current production Leica uses real, original Vulcanite--the rubber-based material used on the M3. The material called "Vulcanite" that has been available as an A La Carte option for MPs and M7s is not rubber-based. Neither is the slightly different "Vulcanite" available on the M9 and M9-P. The version on the digital Ms is more matte. From what I understand, the new Vulcanite is essentially the same as what is currently used on the M9-P. It's the shinier stuff on the film Ms that is no longer available. Honestly, I don't understand all the fuss over one "Vulcanite" over another. In all cases, it is a synthetic material with an artificial texture aimed at mimicking pebble-grained leather. It's all fake. If you want "real," find some leather with the appropriate grain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted February 9, 2012 Share #48 Posted February 9, 2012 One word: "Griptac." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafoofan Posted February 9, 2012 Share #49 Posted February 9, 2012 One word: "Griptac." When the "fake" "Vulcanite" on my MP wears out, I think I'm going to try some black shagreen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 9, 2012 Share #50 Posted February 9, 2012 ...The version on the digital Ms is more matte. From what I understand, the new Vulcanite is essentially the same as what is currently used on the M9-P. It's the shinier stuff on the film Ms that is no longer available. Honestly, I don't understand all the fuss over one "Vulcanite" over another... The covering of the M8.2 is shiny as well and i like its grip personally so i fear to miss it to put it simply. Have you had the opportunity to compare the grip of those "shiny" and "matte" faux vulcanite coverings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 9, 2012 Share #51 Posted February 9, 2012 There are currently 3 threads active on this subject-2 more in the M9 area. I will repeat what I said there. When you send in your M9 for an upgrade the NJ upgrade sheet has different body covering choices listed. My info is 1 day old since I just received my M9 back yesterday and it was covered in what Leica NJ calls "Vulcanite Leatherette" which is what I had before sending it in. I will quote the upgrade sheet: "Circle your choice" "Vulcanite Leatherette / Smooth MP-Style Leatherette" Seems clear to me. Call the Service department if you want clarification on above, instead of talking trash. The Leica NJ phone number is 1-800-222-0118 or 201-995-1686 or email at repair@leicacamerausa.com I called Carmen this last Monday to clarify in my mind about the subject of this thread and she said she was not aware of any discontinuing of the Vulcanite Leatherette. Call to know if the situation has changed instead of speculating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafoofan Posted February 9, 2012 Share #52 Posted February 9, 2012 The covering of the M8.2 is shiny as well and i like its grip personally so i fear to miss it to put it simply. Have you had the opportunity to compare the grip of those "shiny" and "matte" faux vulcanite coverings? Yes. I find the shinier stuff to be more grippy. It has a bit of tackiness to it that the matte stuff does does not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafoofan Posted February 9, 2012 Share #53 Posted February 9, 2012 There are currently 3 threads active on this subject-2 more in the M9 area. I will repeat what I said there. When you send in your M9 for an upgrade the NJ upgrade sheet has different body covering choices listed. My info is 1 day old since I just received my M9 back yesterday and it was covered in what Leica NJ calls "Vulcanite Leatherette" which is what I had before sending it in. I will quote the upgrade sheet: "Circle your choice" "Vulcanite Leatherette / Smooth MP-Style Leatherette" Seems clear to me. Call the Service department if you want clarification on above, instead of talking trash. The Leica NJ phone number is 1-800-222-0118 or 201-995-1686 or email at repair@leicacamerausa.com I called Carmen this last Monday to clarify in my mind about the subject of this thread and she said she was not aware of any discontinuing of the Vulcanite Leatherette. Call to know if the situation has changed instead of speculating. Who's talking "trash?" News from Solms often reaches the outside world without going through Leica USA in New Jersey. Case in point, New Jersey was entirely in the dark about the announced delay in MP/M7 production from earlier last year. Just because New Jersey is unaware of the rumored discontinuance doesn't mean it's not happening. In this case, it appears word got out to the dealers straight from Solms. This has happened before and I have little reason to doubt the veracity of the announcement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 10, 2012 Share #54 Posted February 10, 2012 Rumors are trash until confirmed by an official Leica announcement-that's all. Why not stop all your rumor talk and email Solms then? Let's get something in writing, then I'll believe NJ is not informed on this subject if rumor is fact, but until then it's just a rumor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafoofan Posted February 10, 2012 Share #55 Posted February 10, 2012 Rumors are trash until confirmed by an official Leica announcement-that's all. Why not stop all your rumor talk and email Solms then? Let's get something in writing, then I'll believe NJ is not informed on this subject if rumor is fact, but until then it's just a rumor. This would be such a minute and trivial development if true that it is difficult to fathom it a made-up rumor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 11, 2012 Share #56 Posted February 11, 2012 This would be such a minute and trivial development if true that it is difficult to fathom it a made-up rumor. Agree. Most of us bought the M9 for what's inside not what's outside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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