TomB_tx Posted February 4, 2012 Share #61 Posted February 4, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) None. Just wondering. That is what we have this forum for right? Not all of us. I buy a new camera about every 20 years. Let me know when the M18 comes out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wda Posted February 4, 2012 Share #62 Posted February 4, 2012 None. Just wondering. That is what we have this forum for right?...... Of course, Per. But the M10 is likely to be a significant investment and I wondered if you feel your current kit fails to meet your current requirements. That is a valid case for looking forward to the next iteration. Desire is something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Posted February 4, 2012 Share #63 Posted February 4, 2012 So when do we have a M10 announcement? September 17th, 2012 in the evening during the Leica press conference at the Cologne convention center! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybob Posted February 4, 2012 Share #64 Posted February 4, 2012 September 17th, 2012 in the evening during the Leica press conference at the Cologne convention center! Talk about insight... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf Posted February 4, 2012 Share #65 Posted February 4, 2012 September 17th, 2012 in the evening during the Leica press conference at the Cologne convention center! At what time please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 4, 2012 Share #66 Posted February 4, 2012 So when do we have a M10 announcement? Depends upon LUF members: - For M9 owners, never. - For others, next photokina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted February 4, 2012 Share #67 Posted February 4, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) At what time please? And which conference room? How much is parking? I think it is too soon, but you never know with Leica. They seem to know the timing well of when to do new editions, special editions, etc. I would feel 2013 or 2014 is the time for the next digital M. At least from a user viewpoint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted February 4, 2012 Share #68 Posted February 4, 2012 The announcement will be on 21st December 2012..............D'oh! Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted February 4, 2012 Share #69 Posted February 4, 2012 I have a bad feeling the M10 is going to be "The Homer" of the camera world. For those of you unfamiliar with the TV show, "The Simpsons", Homer, an average guy, was asked by his brother to design a car for the average guy. The result was The Homer, which featured: The Homer has two bubble domes; one in the front, while the one in the back is for quarreling kids, and comes with optional restraints and muzzles. According to Homer, the engine sound causes people to think "the world's coming to an end." There are three horns, as Homer claims that "you can never find a horn when you're mad." The three horns play the song "La Cucaracha." The car also features gigantic cupholders, which actually became a feature on many cars in the 1990s onward. The car has various outdated features such as shag carpeting, and tailfins. It also has a metal bowler as a hood ornament. My advice is never by a Leica M camera whose model number is divisible by 5... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted February 4, 2012 Share #70 Posted February 4, 2012 Two Leica executives were overheard talking. One said, "Well, it is certain. The world will end in October." and the second exec jumped for joy, "Hooray! We don't have to make the M10 deadline!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpalme Posted February 4, 2012 Share #71 Posted February 4, 2012 Most people seems to think this fall. Nothing wrong with that. I just got the M9 so that would kinda stink for my resale value but at the same time I like to see technology advance. Hoping for significant advance in ISO and live view to make my panoramas easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted February 4, 2012 Share #72 Posted February 4, 2012 I just got the M9 so that would kinda stink for my resale value Resale value? What's that? Never sold any Leica gear in 45 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert blu Posted February 4, 2012 Share #73 Posted February 4, 2012 I don't own (yet?) an M 9 but think Leica should be careful not to enter in the circle of a new camera each two/three years. Improvements on actual models yes, but totally new I have some doubts it is a good tactic for a brand like Leica. Just my opinion which could be wrong. robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted February 4, 2012 Share #74 Posted February 4, 2012 It all rather depends on what the M10 will be. If you look at the progression of the M3 to the M7/MP, the changes were actually minuscule. Sure, frame lines and metering, but in all honesty, the overall concept is pretty much the same when compared to the digital age. There are so many threads and discussions about enhancements to the M9, it has become hard to put it all into context. To my mind, the M9 is pretty much perfect as it is. In a digital age, consumers expect real advancement in new product releases. Look at the scorn that a new 911 produces in much of the motoring press. People expect iPhone levels of re-engineering, rather than small changes that Leica traditionally provide with their M releases. The controversy over EVF is really quite laughable to my mind. I'm with Thorsten that it's still too early for the M10. I'm also of the view that most of the enhancements people have suggested, while a good ideas, are not really fitting with the M philosophy of small incremental enhancements to a concept that is fundamentally perfect as it it. In the film world, that was okay. In digital, it's not really a recipe for success. Leica has a new partner, new capital and a desire to increase market share. It isn't going to be in the M series. My view is that the future is EVIL. The problem with that is supplying new AF lenses which are cost effective. My hope is that Leica can make them. To that end, they would be daft not to make use of existing M and R lenses, which gives them time to develop new lenses. Much like the S2, they will announce one or two AF Summarit lenses for the new camera, probably zoom (24 - 90 mm & 50 - 200 mm or similar). Coming up with a concept is all very well, but they are competing with Fuji, Ricoh, Sony, Panasonic & now Nikon in this sector. They have to have product to market quickly after announcing. I remain hopeful this will not be another Panasonic collaboration. These are not Leica products, and frankly sensible people will buy the Panasonic equivalent. So where does the M10 fit into this? Not comfortably. It is possible that the M9 joins the M7 and MP as an end of line product. It's too expensive and too hard to make. Alternatively, we see small changes and model number upgrades, but with the essence of the M9 unchanged. Or we see something quite new, as discussed to date. In that last case, then I suspect the M9-P will join the M7 & MP as an a la carte option. When? Well, not this year. The EVIL and M10 together will be too much for a small company like Leica. Sales of the M9 remain strong, and a new announcement will kill that enthusiasm, even with the 18 month lead time to satisfy what will be even stronger demand. The M9 was announced in 2009. In late 2010, I was still told that I would have a long wait for one. I finally got mine from Meister in Berlin. Then again, I might be wrong, and Leica will follow its previous approach to M development, and it will change the sensor and maybe a button or two, and it will stimulate huge debate and controversy here! Cheers John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastgreenlander Posted February 5, 2012 Share #75 Posted February 5, 2012 Of course, Per. But the M10 is likely to be a significant investment and I wondered if you feel your current kit fails to meet your current requirements. That is a valid case for looking forward to the next iteration. Desire is something else. Besides building my portfolio to be what I consider the best image quality available, I am still a amateur photographer and my M and S system far exceeds my requirements... for now. But I'm not ashamed to admit I like new technology and most importantly, use it. Some here do not want to admit that they have GAS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastgreenlander Posted February 5, 2012 Share #76 Posted February 5, 2012 Not all of us. I buy a new camera about every 20 years. Let me know when the M18 comes out. So you have not converted to digital yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted February 5, 2012 Share #77 Posted February 5, 2012 So you have not converted to digital yet? Let's see: M4 in 1968; then M6 in 87, then the M9 in 2010. That's the only digital that has appealed to me, as I could use it just like the M6 - but direct digital files. I can't think of a reason to change to a different or newer digital as long as the M9 still functions. It does what I want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastgreenlander Posted February 5, 2012 Share #78 Posted February 5, 2012 Let's see: M4 in 1968; then M6 in 87, then the M9 in 2010. That's the only digital that has appealed to me, as I could use it just like the M6 - but direct digital files. I can't think of a reason to change to a different or newer digital as long as the M9 still functions. It does what I want. Your ability to stay consistant is great but I also do like photography for the technology. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted February 5, 2012 Share #79 Posted February 5, 2012 Agreed. Oh, Jono, where art thou? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 5, 2012 Share #80 Posted February 5, 2012 Digital Ms are the loudest and slowest Ms ever made. Hard to believe that they may remain so very long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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