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[Henrikm]

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Hi All forum members. This is my first post in this forum. I Need a little help. I dont have a Leica.

I am looking for a new/used, have a offer on a digilux 3, it comes with olympus flas and all original stuff, is this something or is the d-Lux 5 the Way for me. The Price is the same,the digilux 3 looks like new.

 

Knowing that there is a limited of lenses for the digilux 3. A 25 mm/1,4 is on my list in 2012.

 

Henrik

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[Bobitybob]

Henrik

 

Welcome to the Forum.

 

I don't use either of the cameras you have mentioned but would suggest that you consider your usage before making a decision. The D-Lux will fit in your pocket and I'm sure takes great photos but is probably limited by its fixed although zoom lens. The Diglux has the option to fit a range of 4/3 lenses not only from Leica but also other manufactures. It can also with an adapter, take Leica R lenses (although with out AF etc) which opens up even more photographic possibilities such as macro, wildlife, telephoto etc.

 

For me I think I would go for the Digilux.

 

Hope that's helpful.

[earleygallery]

Hi All forum members. This is my first post in this forum. I Need a little help. I dont have a Leica.

I am looking for a new/used, have a offer on a digilux 3, it comes with olympus flas and all original stuff, is this something or is the d-Lux 5 the Way for me. The Price is the same,the digilux 3 looks like new.

 

Knowing that there is a limited of lenses for the digilux 3. A 25 mm/1,4 is on my list in 2012.

 

Henrik

 

I wouldn't rush to buy a Digilux 3. It wasn't a success for Leica and for a 4/3rds sensor camera it's huge!

 

The Dlux5 is a nice pocket camera but will be limited in terms of what you can do with it.

 

As above, it really depends on your intended useage, how serious you want to be about photography and of course, your budget.

[wda]

Henrik, Welcome to the Forum!

 

You will find unlimited help here on the forum. First, though, it would help if you defined your actual requirement (apart from a desire for a Leica). That would elicit more precise advice to help you.

[Henrikm]

Hello all.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Would like to change my old camera out and want to be able to shift lense.

I've been told that it is better to spend money on a good lens rather than number of pixels and technical potential initiates.

 

Have considered other brands (Sony nex, Olympus etc.)

 

For my budget, it could also be the Leica D-Lux 5, but can not change the lens. Got offered a Digelux 3 with standard lens and an Olympus external flash. Everything looks like new, but it is obviously used.

 

Is the absolute beginning, but want to explore more options.

 

Is this a stupid choice, my budget is not so big.

 

Henrik

[jaapv]

It is cheaper buying an Olympus ( or Panasonic 4/3rds) of the same vintage - more choice too.

[algrove]

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[Antonio Pereira Jiménez]

Hi All forum members. This is my first post in this forum. I Need a little help. I dont have a Leica.

I am looking for a new/used, have a offer on a digilux 3, it comes with olympus flas and all original stuff, is this something or is the d-Lux 5 the Way for me. The Price is the same,the digilux 3 looks like new.

 

Knowing that there is a limited of lenses for the digilux 3. A 25 mm/1,4 is on my list in 2012.

 

Henrik

 

Hello.

I have the Digilux 3 with this lens:

Leica D 14-50 mm f2,8-3,5

Leica D 25 mm f1.4

Olympus 50-200 mm f 2,8-3,5

Olympus 7-14 mm f 4

and i have the D-lux-5.

 

I have both cameras and both are very good.

Depends on what you want to use one or the other.

The D3 for weddings and use it when I want to make more specific photos.

The D5 I use to carry around and when I travel.

The two I like and use both.

depends on what look you choose one or the other.

Nothing is going to disappoint.

 

Also I have a Dilgilux 2 but that's another story.

 

regards

,

[sos song]

Henrik,

 

I have a D3 with the Leica 14-150 lens + an Olympus 11-22 and an Olympus 50mm macro. I gave my D2 to my son, but he kindly lets me use it. I also have a D-lux 5 for easier carrying on our bicycle when we go on vacation.

 

I love my D3 even though I know that there are "better" cameras out there. It feels good in my hands (I have large hands) and I enjoy the challenge of using it's fully manual functions like my old Nikon film camera. I bought it and use it because it is fun to use. I figure that taking more images helps me learn to take better pictures.

 

Kevin

[Digitom]

Hello and welcome.

I also want to give my point of view:

D-Lux 5 (I have) is a very good compact camera (IMHO the best at the moment). I would recommend to buy the additional grip and maybe later the ELV if your budget is bigger.

 

I do not have a digilux 3 (but a Digilux 2, VERY recommendable, but, as mentioned before, a very other story ). But I think with that Digilux 3 cam you can switch the lenses. So if your budget spreads over the time, you may grow your equipment with other lenses. But be aware the DL3 is very big and heavy, compared to DLux5. If you don´t care, it is ok.

 

If you are beginner in digital photography or photography in general, maybe it is better 1st to get the D-Lux5. But it is much more then a point and shoot!! Do not understand me wrong. But beginners may be more lucky with a D-Lux 5 then a Digilux 3.

 

That camera has many possibilities, but - as every compact cam, it is very restricted in the depth of sharpness (do not know the exact english word, sorry), means you can not play with sharp and not sharp elements in the picture - beside macro. But with Digilux 3, as a SLR. you have much more possibilities in that way, although it is not a full format camera, but the sensor is much more bigger then the sensor built in the D-Lux 5. On the other hand D-Lux 5 is newer and sure the noise is lower at higher ISO, and the optical stabilizer is amazing!

The fact of buying a used camera is not bad. If you can look at the cam before buying and check it well, it is absolutely ok.

Ah, finally: you get Lightroom 3 with the D-Lux 5. If you have not such a program, the benefit you may get is big

 

So have a good choice

Thomas

[jankap]

I have the Digilux-4, the predecessor of the Dlux-5. It is a nice carry around camera, not too heavy and loaded with possibilities (macro!).

The Digilux-3 has the larger sensor and surely is an excellent camera. But it is of a conception, that was not successful. Four/thirds with a mirror means, that you need lenses with a deep mount. Generally more weight and a bigger format.

Jan

 

PS see Leica Evil thread

 

..... And Leica dissociated itself quite firmly from the whole 4/3rds idea, after the resounding "success" of the Digilux3

I think the 4/3 format of the sensor was not the reason why the Digilux 3 was not such a success. It were the clumsy shape, the dark viewfinder and the hard-steering lens.

[Antonio Pereira Jiménez]

Hello and welcome.

I also want to give my point of view:

D-Lux 5 (I have) is a very good compact camera (IMHO the best at the moment). I would recommend to buy the additional grip and maybe later the ELV if your budget is bigger.

 

I do not have a digilux 3 (but a Digilux 2, VERY recommendable, but, as mentioned before, a very other story ). But I think with that Digilux 3 cam you can switch the lenses. So if your budget spreads over the time, you may grow your equipment with other lenses. But be aware the DL3 is very big and heavy, compared to DLux5. If you don´t care, it is ok.

 

If you are beginner in digital photography or photography in general, maybe it is better 1st to get the D-Lux5. But it is much more then a point and shoot!! Do not understand me wrong. But beginners may be more lucky with a D-Lux 5 then a Digilux 3.

 

That camera has many possibilities, but - as every compact cam, it is very restricted in the depth of sharpness (do not know the exact english word, sorry), means you can not play with sharp and not sharp elements in the picture - beside macro. But with Digilux 3, as a SLR. you have much more possibilities in that way, although it is not a full format camera, but the sensor is much more bigger then the sensor built in the D-Lux 5. On the other hand D-Lux 5 is newer and sure the noise is lower at higher ISO, and the optical stabilizer is amazing!

The fact of buying a used camera is not bad. If you can look at the cam before buying and check it well, it is absolutely ok.

Ah, finally: you get Lightroom 3 with the D-Lux 5. If you have not such a program, the benefit you may get is big

 

So have a good choice

Thomas

 

Hello Tomas.

Regarding the Digilux 2 which meant that a camera is unique in its style.

For me is the camera that I enjoy most.

But it has its shortcomings because it is a machine of 2004.

If Leica take out a new Digilux 2 with less noise and image stabilizer think it would be a great success.

But I recognize that the Digilux 3 has many more uses and is more modern.

 

Saluds

[Digitom]

Hello Tomas.

Regarding the Digilux 2 which meant that a camera is unique in its style.

For me is the camera that I enjoy most.

But it has its shortcomings because it is a machine of 2004.

 

100 % I agree. And even I know that machine is nearly 8 years old, I still love that oldie

 

If Leica take out a new Digilux 2 with less noise and image stabilizer think it would be a great success.

But I recognize that the Digilux 3 has many more uses and is more modern.

 

Saluds

 

Unforunately, Leica did never do that until now. Maybe if a new system with ELV comes out to next photokina we D2 fans may change

 

But to be honest, I have to say the D-Lux 5 is in some cases a substitute for my Digilux 2.

1. light weight. When traveing and taking photos is not 1st target, the D-Lux 5 is best choice: good quality pics AND good photos.

2. modern, means very low noise at higher ISO, so much better then Digilux 2.

3. a -IMHO- tremendously fine description when there is "mixing light" condition, e.g. when there is the sunset and there is some artifical light also from a house, a window or so in a market. The digilux 2 does a very nice job in that cases.

 

Finally I think the Digilux 3 is not so much more modern the Digilux 2 was (maybe 2 years?). Although their style is similar, the concept is very different and the built in lens of Digilux2 is very good - and often today has still more value then one pay for a used complete Digilux 2.

 

If I would not own a Digilux 2 and one would offer me both - A D3 and a D2, I will take the latter.

[Digitom]

I have the Digilux-4,...

 

Just a little mistake you made: there was never a Digilux 4. You meant the D-Lux 4.

I correct it because maybe the founder of this thread may be confused.

 

So there a 3 Lines:

 

Digilux Zoom line (was a line with 2 models, made together with Fuji, some compact Point and shoot cameras with low pixel resolution about 2.4 Megapixel (was much in that old time). These line is out of suppport.

 

Digilux line (together with Panasonic):

contains model 1 and 2, which are compact cameras, the latter with a very classical handling, and until now a very good cam. Still in service at Solms/Germany (e.g. Sensor change for free due to some technical problems of some series of the SONY sensor) .

 

Model 3 was the only and one SLR from LEICA in the FourThirds sector. With adaptor, one can use R-Lenses (manual). Discontinued camera, but still in service. Similar design to Digilux 2. The ones who use it, like it!

 

D-Lux line: Together with Panasonic.

Meanwhile a long and very successful series (one of the money makers for Leica), beginning with a legendary award winning D-Lux camera (IMHO, the most beautiful one ever built). Then the design changed to a more practical/technical format which is also very handy, until model 5 (actual) every D-Lux is very similar, but there were big differencies in technical details.

[Antonio Pereira Jiménez]

100 % I agree. And even I know that machine is nearly 8 years old, I still love that oldie

 

 

 

Unforunately, Leica did never do that until now. Maybe if a new system with ELV comes out to next photokina we D2 fans may change

 

But to be honest, I have to say the D-Lux 5 is in some cases a substitute for my Digilux 2.

1. light weight. When traveing and taking photos is not 1st target, the D-Lux 5 is best choice: good quality pics AND good photos.

2. modern, means very low noise at higher ISO, so much better then Digilux 2.

3. a -IMHO- tremendously fine description when there is "mixing light" condition, e.g. when there is the sunset and there is some artifical light also from a house, a window or so in a market. The digilux 2 does a very nice job in that cases.

 

Finally I think the Digilux 3 is not so much more modern the Digilux 2 was (maybe 2 years?). Although their style is similar, the concept is very different and the built in lens of Digilux2 is very good - and often today has still more value then one pay for a used complete Digilux 2.

 

If I would not own a Digilux 2 and one would offer me both - A D3 and a D2, I will take the latter.

 

 

Hallo Tomas.

I have The boths camaras Digilux 2 and 3 and the 2 years of diferens are very notable.

The sistem are very diferents.

The D3 with the 25 mm 1.4 is genial and whit the oly 50 -200 mm too.

The biggerer sensor of the D3 give the posibility to make copies 80x100cm OK.

 

Saludos

[earleygallery]

Hello all.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Would like to change my old camera out and want to be able to shift lense.

I've been told that it is better to spend money on a good lens rather than number of pixels and technical potential initiates.

 

Have considered other brands (Sony nex, Olympus etc.)

 

For my budget, it could also be the Leica D-Lux 5, but can not change the lens. Got offered a Digelux 3 with standard lens and an Olympus external flash. Everything looks like new, but it is obviously used.

 

Is the absolute beginning, but want to explore more options.

 

Is this a stupid choice, my budget is not so big.

 

Henrik

 

Buy yourself a used Canon DSLR, one of the new base models or used, something like a 30d or 40d. You can fit Leica R lenses with a cheap adapter (ebay, about £10), as well as Canon autofocus lenses of course. This will give you better quality than the Digilux 3 in most cases, and more options going forward. Also, R lenses are relative bargains at the moment.

[Digitom]

Hallo Tomas.

I have The boths camaras Digilux 2 and 3 and the 2 years of diferens are very notable.

The sistem are very diferents.

The D3 with the 25 mm 1.4 is genial and whit the oly 50 -200 mm too.

The biggerer sensor of the D3 give the posibility to make copies 80x100cm OK.

 

Saludos

 

I understand. Of course the LENS is very different also the bigger sensor makes mch difference in the signal to noise aspect at higher ISO. But that is a result of the fact that D2 is a compact camera with non changeable lens and the D3 is a SLR with changeable lens. The latter MUST be more flexible and sure it gives more possibilities. 25mm with 1.4 is really great. Hm - maybe you lead me into temptation to look for a Digilux 3 in good condition - there are many good lenses on the market for that system anyway!

 

Beside all that: I think it was a fault that Leica gave the same family name to a compact camera and a SLR.

 

Saludos

Thomas

[Antonio Pereira Jiménez]

I understand. Of course the LENS is very different also the bigger sensor makes mch difference in the signal to noise aspect at higher ISO. But that is a result of the fact that D2 is a compact camera with non changeable lens and the D3 is a SLR with changeable lens. The latter MUST be more flexible and sure it gives more possibilities. 25mm with 1.4 is really great. Hm - maybe you lead me into temptation to look for a Digilux 3 in good condition - there are many good lenses on the market for that system anyway!

 

Beside all that: I think it was a fault that Leica gave the same family name to a compact camera and a SLR.

 

Saludos

Thomas

 

I agree 100%.

 

 

 

Saludos.

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[macjim]

For what it's worth, here's my suggestion: go for the D-Lux 5 as you'll get Lightroom 3 with it and, a two year warranty (first year repair or replace) and you know it's not been dropped or mishandled at any time. It's a nice camera and a relatively cheep way to own a leica – yes there is a cheaper camera in the form of the V-Lux 30 also to look at too!

PS: welcome to the forum!

[Digitom]

Hello Henrik,

 

please let us know which was your choice finally, and what your experience is.