Like Her Posted November 28, 2011 Share #1 Posted November 28, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Everyone, I have been reading the forum for a while, but this is most first post. I have recently bought an M8 and 28mm summicron & 40mm Minolta. I am really enjoying the leica and carry it will me everyday - I had long given up carrying my 5Dmk2 around unless it was for special occasions due to the weight. I know that I will now use the M8 for most of my everyday photography, but should I keep the canon for special occasions? The money could go towards new glass or an eventual m9 upgrade? I currently have canon 35mm 1.4 & 16-35mm - these would be useful for extreme low light and wide angle. I recently sold a 24-70, my reasoning being if I really needed it I could always hire for specifics. I don't shoot motor sports nor wildlife. I have dipped my toe and I like the rangefinder, but shall I take the plunge and ditch all of my dslr gear? I would be grateful for any opinions. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Double Negative Posted November 28, 2011 Share #2 Posted November 28, 2011 I'd hang on to it for at least a little while. Just to make sure you're fully comfortable with the M system. I went from shooting Canon 98% of the time to about 2% of the time myself. But there are times where you might need the features of the SLR. Hard to solicit opinions as everyone's needs are different. Do whatever works for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 28, 2011 Share #3 Posted November 28, 2011 Welcome. Only you can decide. But the things to ask yourself are: Do I want the easy high ISO? (note your postprocessing skills will improve) Will I ever want to do long tele / macro/ shift lenses? (You could buy a Visoflex for fun) Do I need AF for any of my shooting (note you will get better at manual as you gain experience) If not, why keep it? Better buy a backup camera, a new lens, or something else useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 28, 2011 Share #4 Posted November 28, 2011 A modern Summilux 35/1.4 costs a little fortune (if you can find one) and there is no 16/2.8 or 18/2.8 M lens at Leica. I would then keep your Canon gear and wait and see if it takes dust or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theendlesshouse Posted November 28, 2011 Share #5 Posted November 28, 2011 Sell now before used prices fall steeply. You can always buy anoter used further down the line . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Murray-White Posted November 28, 2011 Share #6 Posted November 28, 2011 I kept my hefty Olympus E-3, simply because there are one or two jobs that I need it for each year (and they do need the fast auto focus tele lens), but looking at your kit, long teles don't seem to be your thing at all. I tried to rationalise my gear by thinking that Micro Four Thirds could be the go, could use both m43 and 43 on it and with an adapter all the lenses for the M8..............but I hated the nasty little thing! we actually found that my wife's Panasonic LX3 got a lot more use than the EP-1. In the back of my mind I still think a high quality small auto focus camera will find its way into my kit one day possibly a Ricoh GXR. I'm going to say sell the Canon now, worry about it later and keep the idea of a good quality mirrorless in mind - they are going to get even better - I'd reckon. For low light I went for a Nokton 35/1.2 and have found that I can get quite few keepers at 1/15th, so low light isn't just high ISO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted November 28, 2011 Share #7 Posted November 28, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) No different than film days. For macro or tele work or precise composition, you need the viso, but a reflex is better application. For most everything else, the RF will be superior. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted November 28, 2011 Share #8 Posted November 28, 2011 NO! Don't Sell It! just give it to me :-) I'll give it a good home, clothe it, feed it, give it a good education. Promise it grows up and becomes a good citizen of the photographic world. :-) LoL Peace to You Richard in Michigan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Murray-White Posted November 29, 2011 Share #9 Posted November 29, 2011 NO! Don't Sell It!just give it to me :-) I'll give it a good home, clothe it, feed it, give it a good education. Promise it grows up and becomes a good citizen of the photographic world. :-) LoL Peace to You Richard in Michigan you've left one thing out, you should promise not to neglect your Leica. You know what M8s are like they can get insanely jealous - your's probably a picked up the vibe already and will need some remedial attention - better go have a kind word to it right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like Her Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share #10 Posted November 29, 2011 Thanks for the replies. Will I ever want to do long tele work? - not really, I would one day love to go to Antarctica and would need a long tele for that, but that is so abstract at this point that it would not be worth keeping a camera body for it. (i would have to hire a tele lens anyway) Do I need high iso? - it is handy when the light fades, but is it worth having too cameras for? At some point I will most likely upgrade to an M9, so this will give me a some improvement in this area. Do I need fast auto focus? I don't shoot sports, but it can be useful. I am getting better at the manual focus each day and find it much more accurate than the canon autofocus when I nail it. I have been stopping down when fast focus is needed to increase depth of field and hopefully get the subject in focus with some success. Do I need a wide zoom? The Leica 21mm 3.4 could probably take over the role of the 16-35mm. I recently did everest base camp trek and the 16-35mm was definitely the most used lens. But this is not a regular day out with the camera. As I am not a pro I guess I would use the canon for specific circumstances probably while on holiday, but not necessarily every holiday. Is it worth keeping 3k of kit to use on a once a year excursions? Probably not. If I had the following kit then I am pretty sure I could ditch the canon. M9, 21mm 3.4, 35mm 1.4 & 50mm 1.4. but that is a load of cash and a long way down the road. If i sell it I could move closer to the complete kit that would replace it, but would only be part way there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me Leica! Posted November 29, 2011 Share #11 Posted November 29, 2011 DSLRs lose value like crazy. I know that now a new 5D2 is still quite expensive (maybe because it is full frame?) but in a year or two that price will be less. Maybe a lot less. If you think you can survive without DSLR for a while, sell 5D2 while you can still get decent price for it (I recently sell Nikon D700 and lenses, got quite good price and got myself a used M8 in place of this), get used to RF style. Then if you still believe you need DSLR, you can get another one easily and I will bet everything that it will be cheaper. Unless you want full frame, you could get something like 7D, which has good high ISO, and is faster than 5D2 (I know you say you don't shoot sports, but 7D is blinding fast camera). I now only have M8 after I sell Nikon, but probably some time I will get hold of second hand 7D for times when DSLR is useful. But for most shots I imagine I will stay with M8 as it is more fun to use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doolittle Posted November 29, 2011 Share #12 Posted November 29, 2011 If you don't think you will miss it, you will be better off selling the camera. You can always buy another 2nd hand down the road for less than you sold it for. Maybe replace it with a basic consumer Canon dSLR to use the lenses, though without the full frame sensor the lenses don't really make sense either. I would sell the whole lot. If you need a telephoto set up down the line sort something out then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted November 29, 2011 Share #13 Posted November 29, 2011 you've left one thing out, you should promise not to neglect your Leica. You know what M8s are like they can get insanely jealous - your's probably a picked up the vibe already and will need some remedial attention - better go have a kind word to it right now. psssst Clive... I left out the part about not using my 20D since the spring. Okay... Now pipe down, I need an upgrade. The 20D won't focus accurately with any lens (af or mf) that opens wider than f4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted November 29, 2011 Share #14 Posted November 29, 2011 +1 to these thoughts Any dSLR is a depreciating asset. If you don't 'need' it to be around very much, economically quite sound to move it sooner than later and park the money in lens or lenses - they tend to hold values pretty darn well. DSLRs lose value like crazy. I know that now a new 5D2 is still quite expensive (maybe because it is full frame?) but in a year or two that price will be less. Maybe a lot less. If you think you can survive without DSLR for a while, sell 5D2 while you can still get decent price for it (I recently sell Nikon D700 and lenses, got quite good price and got myself a used M8 in place of this), get used to RF style. Then if you still believe you need DSLR, you can get another one easily and I will bet everything that it will be cheaper. Unless you want full frame, you could get something like 7D, which has good high ISO, and is faster than 5D2 (I know you say you don't shoot sports, but 7D is blinding fast camera). I now only have M8 after I sell Nikon, but probably some time I will get hold of second hand 7D for times when DSLR is useful. But for most shots I imagine I will stay with M8 as it is more fun to use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoxa Posted November 29, 2011 Share #15 Posted November 29, 2011 As I am not a pro I guess I would use the canon for specific circumstances probably while on holiday, but not necessarily every holiday. Is it worth keeping 3k of kit to use on a once a year excursions? Probably not. I did sell my canon gear to fund my m8.2 & lenses. For backup & when an slr is useful - for me it's macro & close up, I'm very happy with my nikon d90, bought used on ebay. If you don't need pro, a decent aps c dslr could be an alternative & help fund the dream! ann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like Her Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share #16 Posted November 30, 2011 thanks everyone. Think I have made my mind up to sell up and invest is some nice leica glass. If in future I do need an slr i think second hand and lens hire will be the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwinThomas Posted November 30, 2011 Share #17 Posted November 30, 2011 Personally I'd keep the Canon kit until I was 100% sure I was happy with the Leica kit. Once happy I'd then trade in along with the M8 for a new M9. Renting if I needed the SLR kit later on. If you want the current versions of those Summilux (f/1.4) lenses you'd better start saving now and put your name on a waiting list somewhere Edit: just noticed your last post, so this one can be ignored Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gab3x Posted December 11, 2011 Share #18 Posted December 11, 2011 There is no reason to sell the Canon until you need the dosh for something new. Whereas the body depreciates with time, lenses tend to keep their value. My 5d body (I still use it extensively) has dropped to about €700 by now but my 50mm f1.2 L keeps its value at about €1100. The 50 will not drop in price until Canon makes mkII. The other approach is to wait for 12 months and see whether you'll be using it. If you don't use it then simply sell it on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like Her Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share #19 Posted December 12, 2011 it's all sold now anyway! Have ordered myself a 35 lux as a replacement. 28mm & 35mm probably a bit close together but I will see how I get on. Maybe change the 28mm for a 24mm or 21mm in future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted December 13, 2011 Share #20 Posted December 13, 2011 I think you've done the right thing I had a long chat with my brother who is a long standing Leica man and bought his last Leica (an M6) in 1998 he told me to learn and build my skills with one lense and he said for him 35 was it (28 to you and me) then find the perfect 35 and understand 50, finally choose then sell the 8 n 28 when 9's come down secondhand and know if your fave lense will be a 35 or 50 He's a 35 man and did have a range but found he just fitted and preferred his 35 cron so sold the others and worked the camera to take pictures I hope I can resist the Leica sweatshop ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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