kokoshawnuff Posted September 14, 2011 Share #1 Posted September 14, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) That is to say, has anyone had ruined shots while using the Summicron 35 ASPH without a hood. The minimal finder blockage with the standard hood doesn't bother me, but the cap and the extra size added to the lens do. I am not a professional so if I loose a shot to flare or some other instances of stray light it wouldn't be potential lost income, but I'm curious what the actual or theoretical ill-effects might be when not using a hood on the 35 ASPH. I've only been shooting the lens a couple months and everything about it optically and mechanically is as close to perfect as I could imagine, I just don't like the hood. Thanks in advance for the responses. **I did a search and there are a couple threads on alternatives to the hood, but nothing I could find on experience with no hood** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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menos I M6 Posted September 14, 2011 Share #2 Posted September 14, 2011 If you are using the lens without the hood for several months now and didn't stumble over the most ugly ghost, you ever going to see from a 35mm lens (this lens is able, to produce one in certain "light in frame situations"), you are fine without the hood. The 35 Cron ASPH is so contrasty all by itself, that robbing some of that doesn't hurt much. When I used mine (now mostly on the shelf), I used the hood simply out of convenience (no fingerprints on lens and nobody bumping into it + I don't need to use a lens cap, while the camera is in the bag. I like the hood actually as of it's tiny size and great efficiency - it doesn't look as cool as Leica's spun and machined metal RF hoods, but it is a very good hood at shielding light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted September 14, 2011 Share #3 Posted September 14, 2011 The hood is not there just to reduce flare. It is a very practical unobtrusive accessory which provides very useful protection for the lens front element or filter. Mine remains fitted at all times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted September 14, 2011 Share #4 Posted September 14, 2011 I use a 12504 hood 100% of the time on mine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted September 14, 2011 Share #5 Posted September 14, 2011 I ditched the standard square plastic/rubber/whatever it is hood for a round Leica one (also used for the 35/1.4 lens (not the ASPH). It cost about $100 on eBay. The hood is metal and works well. It's far less obtrusive, and looks great. I use the standard round lens cap, which sits inside the hood. You do need to use a filter, as the cap doesn't sit that securely in the hood without one. I use the hood primarily to protect the front element of the lens. Cheers John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 14, 2011 Share #6 Posted September 14, 2011 The hood is not there just to reduce flare. It is a very practical unobtrusive accessory which provides very useful protection for the lens front element or filter... +1 Mine is always on. I wouldn't wait the next drop or bump to use one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_n Posted September 16, 2011 Share #7 Posted September 16, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) It's the best hood Leica makes and I also have it on the lens all the time. I paid a small fortune for mine as my BP 35 ASPH came with a ridiculous round thingie on the front. I don't use the cap though, I have a B+W MRC UV filter on the front of the lens instead. Always ready... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted September 16, 2011 Share #8 Posted September 16, 2011 So mant advantages top having a hood on, no disadvantages that I can see are important. Can't do any harm, often does good. Therefore a 'nobrainer', no point in wasting time thinking about it, IMHO Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted September 19, 2011 Share #9 Posted September 19, 2011 Dont like hoods. Ugly. Get in the way. Never use them unless I can avoid it. A judiciously placed hand can stop flare in the odd circumstance where it is likely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 19, 2011 Share #10 Posted September 19, 2011 I use an old 12524 - compact, robust, always on : its cap, on the contrary, flew away definitely after several "lost & luckily found"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted September 20, 2011 Share #11 Posted September 20, 2011 Dont like hoods. Ugly. Get in the way. Never use them unless I can avoid it. A judiciously placed hand can stop flare in the odd circumstance where it is likely Get in the way? Seriously? Those extra 2cm get in the way??? I'll stick with the well made lens hood and excellent rectangular cap on my 35 Summicron. Good luck with the hand job... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Thompson Posted September 20, 2011 Share #12 Posted September 20, 2011 Good luck with the hand job... Thanks for the laugh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 20, 2011 Share #13 Posted September 20, 2011 I use an old 12524 - compact, robust, always on : its cap, on the contrary, flew away definitely after several "lost & luckily found"... Because the 12524 had not cap if memory serves. I don't recall having found one in the box when i bough it last century, but i may be wrong. My guess is you were using the 14043 cap of the almost identical 12526 hood. The latter has more pronounced nubs at the front of the hood so as to grip the "new" cap... that i keep in the box for sake of precaution of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted September 20, 2011 Share #14 Posted September 20, 2011 .......I am not a professional so if I loose a shot to flare or some other instances of stray light it wouldn't be potential lost income...... You won't lose income but you have immediately devalued your equipment by not using the lens hood. If you didn't like the coating, would you scrape that off as well? Surely you bought your Summicron asph because it is one of the best manual focus 35mm lenses available, so why impede it's performance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted September 20, 2011 Share #15 Posted September 20, 2011 but you have immediately devalued your equipment by not using the lens hood. The hood doesn't make much difference in performance terms. I've owned three of them over the years and I've always found the lens a bit prone to ugly flare (if you have the sun in or near the frame) whether the hood is on or not. Personally, I've used the hood 99% of the time with this lens but there are other Leica lenses - eg. 35 Summilux ASPH of both flavours and (less often) the 28 Summicron - which I have used without the supplied hoods and I've never felt I have devalued those lenses in doing so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holybasil Posted September 20, 2011 Share #16 Posted September 20, 2011 Some say hoods improve contrast, and by the very least it offers good protection. I love leica's square hoods so to not use one is beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted September 20, 2011 Share #17 Posted September 20, 2011 ...... I've always found the lens a bit prone to ugly flare (if you have the sun in or near the frame) whether the hood is on or not. I cannot see your logic here. Any lens can or will flare if you shoot into or close to the sun or other point light source, with or without a lens hood. A lens hood can prevent flare in many situations where not using one will certainly lead to avoidable problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted September 22, 2011 Share #18 Posted September 22, 2011 Because the 12524 had not cap if memory serves. I don't recall having found one in the box when i bough it last century, but i may be wrong. My guess is you were using the 14043 cap of the almost identical 12526 hood. The latter has more pronounced nubs at the front of the hood so as to grip the "new" cap... that i keep in the box for sake of precaution of course. But why has the 12524 nubs at the front of the hood at all if it is not to grip a cap? I agree to the problem though, I have the 12524 with a 14043 which I keep loosing all the time. The fit does not seem to good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 22, 2011 Share #19 Posted September 22, 2011 But why has the 12524 nubs at the front of the hood at all if it is not to grip a cap?... I don't know but hood caps are new things to me. I would have found them ridiculous 30 years ago. But again i may be wrong here, you might wish to ask another 35/2 v4 owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted September 22, 2011 Share #20 Posted September 22, 2011 The 35mm cron hood is the only truly functional one made by/for Leica. The cap for it is a joke in the field. Every lens has the potential to flair at some point. A good hood will reduce or prevent flare, up to a point. In the past, I have conducted extensive tests on hoods of varying design, primarily on Hasselblad. I proved in control tests, to my satisfaction, that the better the hood, the less contrast was lost due to flare events and frequently totally prevented. As far as I am concerned, it's not even debatable. Lens coating is another factor in this argument and I compared Rollei lenses with Hasselblad lenses for a superior coating. A local dealer and all his staff still owe me $50 each on the outcome of that test! (No, I haven't forgotten about it Michael, if you are reading this.!!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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