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Hi all,

I was wondering if there is a difference in M8s between the version with the red dot(leica brand)

link: http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/LeicaM8/Images/frontview-001.jpg

 

and black dot.

link: http://www.professionalphotographer.co.uk/assets/uploads/articles/large/2009/6/66a81495-865c-4221-a24a-1e7bcb5f13b8.jpg

 

If I wasn't sufficiently clear I mean the Leica label above the lens.

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...Is there no Chrome M8.2???

Yes but it has a red dot unfortunately. No problem to put a black dot instead though. I would prefer no dot at all or a chrome one but there is a hole behing it and chrome dots do not exist AFAIK.

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so...how would I distinguish a m8 from a m8.2 on the used market?

only the shutter (8000 -> m8, 4000 ->m8.2)?

Is that right?

Yes to the shutter but the 8.2 is actual chrome while the 8 is grey paint. It's pretty obvious in person and any reputable online dealer would differentiate.

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so...how would I distinguish a m8 from a m8.2 on the used market? only the shutter (8000 -> m8, 4000 ->m8.2)? Is that right?

Almost. Essential differences are more accurate frame lines at medium distances for the M8.2 but slower shutter speeds (1/4000s instead of 1/8000s) for the latter. The shutter sound is slightly less noisy with the M8.2 as well. As regards cosmetics the M8.2 comes with a sapphire crystal display and a leatherette covering mimicking the traditional vulcanite of original Leicas.

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Just to make it a little more confusing there is the M8u. The U stands for upgrade....Which is what I have. Mine has the vulcanite and 1/4000 shutter but M8 framelines and does not have sapphire glass.

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Because you or your seller did not choose the total upgrade otherwise you would have the M8.2's frame lines and sapphire glass as well.

The ony differences would then be black anodized M8u vs black paint M8.2 as well as red dot for the former vs black one for the latter.

If i don't forget anything...

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As mentioned, the black paint M8.2 comes with black dot; the chrome M8.2 comes with red dot. And you can freely change them on your own. Leica will not change the M8.2 black dot on the black camera when sent for service; I've done it. And, if one asks nicely, they won't even change a substitute black dot...as I put on my chrome M8.2...when sent for service.

 

The M8 upgrade program involves 3 basic changes, available separately or together. These are the change in frame lines to 2m (as in the M8.2), the change in shutter (which sacrifices the 1/8000 speed, as with the M8.2), and the sapphire screen (as on the M8.2).

 

The M8.2 still differs in some minor respects from a fully upgraded M8...the black dot on the black camera, black paint (M8.2) versus black chrome (M8), S mode, coverings, etc. Some dealers will mistakenly say that they have an M8 fully upgraded to an M8.2...not quite right. And Pete has it right about the hot shoe engraving.

 

Jeff

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