htjvan Posted August 22, 2011 Share #41 Posted August 22, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) How many of the latest and most expensive M9 titaniums are already collecting dust ? As for M8's : they are wonderful cameras, handle exactly the same as the M9 (in fact they are the same except for the sensor size) so I am going to enjoy mine for years to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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adan Posted August 22, 2011 Share #42 Posted August 22, 2011 Actually, my M8s and M9s collected dust from the day I bought them (on the sensor ) I don't have time to worry about things I can't control. If my M9s become unrepairable, something else will be available - then. And I will put mental effort into how to replace them - then. Until that time - carpe diem! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted August 22, 2011 Share #43 Posted August 22, 2011 I don't have time to worry about things I can't control. If my M9s become unrepairable, something else will be available - then. And I will put mental effort into how to replace them - then. Until that time - carpe diem! Exactly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted August 22, 2011 Share #44 Posted August 22, 2011 Well, mine will only be gathering dust it they are worn out and this depends mostly on me I'd say:D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted August 22, 2011 Share #45 Posted August 22, 2011 Quite correct. And I am sure that Leica has calculated failure rate/ planned camera lifespan/stock needed for those parts. Substitute "estimated" for "calculated" and then I agree with you. And no matter how liberal their estimate, at some point somebody is going to get irate when the part they need is extinct. IIRC M5 afficionados were quite despondent when Leica ran out of meter circuits for the M5...about a year or two ago and 30+ years after the camera was discontinued! That said, shouldn't we presume Leica's estimate nowadays makes allowance for the foreshortened product life paradigm accepted in the digital age? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpalme Posted August 22, 2011 Author Share #46 Posted August 22, 2011 Actually, my M8s and M9s collected dust from the day I bought them (on the sensor ) I don't have time to worry about things I can't control. If my M9s become unrepairable, something else will be available - then. And I will put mental effort into how to replace them - then. Until that time - carpe diem! This is just a discussion about how long the M8 will be supported.. I'm not "worried". But that doesn't mean I wouldn't want my M8 to last a long time. I and many folks don't have the $25-30,000 for the "M8s and M9s" that you have purchased and can care freely buy new ones when something new becomes available. Sure was nice of you to chime in and tell us you basically don't care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pthurst Posted August 24, 2011 Share #47 Posted August 24, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was out yesterday shooting with the M8.2 with a nice 28mm (36mm equiv) lens on. I know the M9 may have a full frame sensor and other advantages too but at more than double the cost of picking up a decent 8.2, I can't help but wonder if it is more than double the quality? On that basis, I'm sticking with my M8.2 and buying some nice glass to go with it! Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 24, 2011 Share #48 Posted August 24, 2011 Nothing that is double the price is double the quality the curve is logarithmic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted August 24, 2011 Share #49 Posted August 24, 2011 I was just wandering if you folks think Leica will still support this camera 10 years from now. You would normally think a digital camera such as this wouldn't be used in ten years at all. But there are some advantages that can not be denied... Depending on your shooting style and favorite focal lengths of course. For instance you could be married to the 67mm F 0.95 and the 100mm Summilux. Anyway I'm of course speaking about the 50 Noctilux and 75 summilux. Maybe a reason to not sell your M8 when upgrading. Of course you can alway crop it I suppose. Well the mob in Solms didn't give a hoot about the thousands of Leica R's when they discontinued the R system so do you think they are going to worry about a handful of M8's Of course they will tell you that they are working on a solution to find spare parts for it. Simply never to be trusted. R.I.P. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 24, 2011 Share #50 Posted August 24, 2011 :confused:There is no problem having an R repaired in Solms.I do not see the point of this post other than a spot of letting of steam by a disgruntled R owner.. Try getting a Canon 10D repaired... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 24, 2011 Share #51 Posted August 24, 2011 I was out yesterday shooting with the M8.2 with a nice 28mm (36mm equiv) lens on. I know the M9 may have a full frame sensor and other advantages too but at more than double the cost of picking up a decent 8.2, I can't help but wonder if it is more than double the quality?... Far from this, i even prefer the M8.2's IQ personally and small size of tele lenses is an advantage as well. Now the problem of crop cameras is fast wides. 28/2 is not a problem with the M9 but we'd need a 21/2, or even a 21/1.4 DoF wise, to get similar results with an M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psamson Posted August 24, 2011 Share #52 Posted August 24, 2011 One other consideration may be software support on your computer for the camera's native file format. I don't own a digital Leica but I think it is DNG. I don't agree with everything Ken Rockwell says on his website, but he may be correct when he said you'd better have a JPG copy of everything for long-term software compatibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 24, 2011 Share #53 Posted August 24, 2011 ...I don't agree with everything Ken Rockwell says on his website, but he may be correct when he said you'd better have a JPG copy of everything for long-term software compatibility. Curious idea being a compressed format. Would you archive precious audio records in MP3 format? JPG is usefull of course but doesn't replace lossless formats like DNG (where's the problem exactly?) or TIFF for archival purpose IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted August 24, 2011 Share #54 Posted August 24, 2011 I and many folks don't have the $25-30,000 for the "M8s and M9s" that you have purchased and can care freely buy new ones when something new becomes available. Sure was nice of you to chime in and tell us you basically don't care. I'm OK with someone being rude, if they have their facts straight. Or being wrong, if they are polite about it. Being rude AND wrong seems a bit de trop, however. My actual cash outlay for 2 M8s, replaced by 2 M9s, (thanks to careful trading) has been about $14,000 over five years. So you do not know what you are talking about, and it would be nice if you kept your uninformed opinions about other people's finances to yourself. Apology accepted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpalme Posted August 24, 2011 Author Share #55 Posted August 24, 2011 Maybe you should just keep all your comments to yourself.. I'm a little irritated because this is the second time in the past couple of weeks you drop in only to make a rude comment. .. and your right .. I have no idea what you paid for your cameras.. Just going by what new prices are... since you posted with an attitude that you simple don't care about us folks that want our M8s to be supported. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 24, 2011 Share #56 Posted August 24, 2011 Not sure if i understand your rant here. You wanted to know how long your M8 will be supported by Leica. We answered 10 years didn't we, so what else can we do to help you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted August 24, 2011 Share #57 Posted August 24, 2011 Actually, my M8s and M9s collected dust from the day I bought them (on the sensor ) I don't have time to worry about things I can't control. If my M9s become unrepairable, something else will be available - then. And I will put mental effort into how to replace them - then. Until that time - carpe diem! This was Andy's original comment. I'm still trying to understand why this is considered rude. The OP asked if others think the M8 will be supported in 10 years. Andy said he doesn't think about it, because he can't control it. I don't take that as a personal attack; it's merely his answer to the question, and it probably represents the opinion of fair amount of folks. I expect my M8.2s to be supported for quite some time (no idea how long), but like Andy, I think it's wise not to stress in the meantime and enjoy using what we have. It wasn't long ago the viability of Leica was in question. The response to Andy's comment from the OP, on the other hand, was clearly personal in nature. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 24, 2011 Share #58 Posted August 24, 2011 Gentlemen, no further fighting please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted August 24, 2011 Share #59 Posted August 24, 2011 Yes Leica will support it in ten years and it will have (had) a revival/hype at that time, like the M3 still has nowadays and there will be M8's collecting dust, like some M3's nowadays Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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