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Compact interchangeable lens camera coming 09/12


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what is agx sensor?

To explain it shortly - Ag is the symbol for silver, and X is the symbol used by chemists for halogens in general. Therefore, AgX is a silver halide (silver chloride, silver bromide, silver iodide), and silver halides - AgX - are used in conventional ("analogue") film.

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Please don't listen to these nostalgic people. They can only think in terms of film, they show their pictures from microfiches, I suppose.

The MX will be made out of Li, I predict (Lithium is the lightest metal). Perhaps even glass fibre.

My IIIf (screwmount of 1950) weights 450gr. and the M9 585gr.

Negativ progress so far.

Jan

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Please don't listen to these nostalgic people. They can only think in terms of film, they show their pictures from microfiches, I suppose.

:D

 

The MX will be made out of Li, I predict (Lithium is the lightest metal).

A camera made out of Lithium? Well, so you should take care of an excellent waterproof sealing. :p;):D

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Maybe an optical finder with an EVF option? Wonder where they saw that before?

 

Actually, while a clip-on finder is not as good as a built in one, either optical or EV, it is pretty handy as on my GF1 which I always take along with my Leica's. Without the EVF, it fits nicely in the pocket with the little EVF in another pocket. If I am in bright light, i use the EVF because we all know what LCD screen look like in bright light. But in dim light, the LCD is superior to the EVF. Of course, an optical finder works in all conditions, but that is not what the compact mirrorless cameras are all about. In any case, such a new compact camera should be attractive because of size, convenience, and hopefully price. There is no way they can make a mechanical wonder like a Leica M less expensive, but with the way electronics are today, the new compact should cost considerably less: otherwise, what is the point?

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Before that. The shutter for the Digilux 2 - the one that failed - came from Sony. It still doesn't mean that they are likely to bed-hop and tie up with a company that, a bit like Apple, does things their way or the highway.

 

Regards,

 

Bill

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I'm not saying, by the way, that a PanaLeica like alliance with Sony to badge engineer the NEX 7 is imminent, or even likely, but I suppose it's possible. Rather, I'm hinting that any new Leica EVIL/CSC would need this level of technology and feature set to succeed, at least with new customers. Whether this sort of thing would appeal to traditionalists is another question entirely..........

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Michael Reichmann explains very well the main flaw of electronic viewfinders...

 

Sony A77 First Impressions

 

EVF are useful as a complement to a good optical viewfinder.

 

The most interesting thing from Sony today is the Visoflex-like adaptor for A-mount lenses on E-mount (NEX) cameras. This may be a hint of the so-called R solution from Leica:

 

Sony: adaptador LA-EA2, inspirado en la historia - DSLR Magazine

 

And the new supersmall zoom lens from Panasonic:

 

43 Rumors | Blog | (FT5) Hot Image leak!!! Panasonic new 14-42mm is a ...Pancake!!!

 

In my opinion Leica should stay out of that mirrorless APS-C market... that is even more hot than the reflex market was...

 

24x36mm mirrorless (rangefinder and other variants) is the perfect niche for Leica...

 

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I hated the original Nex 5 and didn't buy one.

I figured, the GH-2 would be better, as it has a viewfinder and some external controls - I was wrong and hate it.

 

I have my ears perked up though on this new Nex7 thing, as indeed, it looks somewhat nice and has some interesting numerical improvements over the GH-2.

 

It won't solve the main issue, I have with the GH-2 though - the EVF usage.

I might sell my new GH-2 and buy a Nex7 for tryouts with adapter and M-lenses out of curiosity.

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Still, despite all Sony grumbles, I would not be greatly surprised to see an Exmor sensor based M10....

And it would not be a bad thing either - both the Digilux2 and X1 are remarkable performers. Sony has provided excellent long-term support on the D2 sensor, also a consideration.

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Interesting indeed but will M wides fit w/o vignetting and color shift problems?

 

With an APS-C sensor I think yes... but the lack of microlenses could be an issue... in general, my sentiment (reinforced after a very quick in-shop-test with a Nex 5 + M adapter) is that M lenses with a "normal" APS sensor is a no completely satisfactory match... you do not "exploit" the value of Leica glass and do suffer the lens size, which is the one of a 24x36 lens. I mean... the capability to use M lenses on, say, a Nex 7, can be a nice to have for some of us who like to have the Nex in itself, but is not the basis of a well matched digital camera system.

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In my opinion Leica should stay out of that mirrorless APS-C market... that is even more hot than the reflex market was...

 

24x36mm mirrorless (rangefinder and other variants) is the perfect niche for Leica...

 

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You can be right... it's becoming hot... I continue to think that, in case, they ought (at least) to differentiate slightly, for instance with a M8-sized sensor.

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In my opinion Leica should stay out of that mirrorless APS-C market... that is even more hot than the reflex market was...

 

24x36mm mirrorless (rangefinder and other variants) is the perfect niche for Leica...

 

 

 

I wouldn't disagree, particularly if Leica can successfully pull off a full-frame CSC.

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With an APS-C sensor I think yes... but the lack of microlenses could be an issue...

My feeling as well but i seem to have read somewhere that the new Sony has some sort of microlenses. I may be completely wrong though.

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Nicely done Sony - this gadget could perfectly well mount a R lens on a M or any other body for that matter.. (Noo Im not that dense, I mean a similar gadget, not the sony one)

 

Some kinks to work out, the M is not live view.. so the gadget need a EFV on top.. big deal, it can be done... and surely a few other kinks.. but if enough folks _really_ wanted to pop the money, there is a way for sure.

 

Sony NEX E-mount lenses - Engadget Galleries

 

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