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Perhaps so, but I note that DMR prices still appear to be holding firm on the used market so plenty of people must be hanging onto theirs for now.:o.

 

Mine are not for sale :)

 

I find the reliability of R8/9 is getting worse

 

My two R8 bodies have been very reliable. No repairs, no service needed.

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Cross your fingers. If they work they are wonderful cameras. But is something breaks, they are so overengineered that economically feasible repairs are few. With the current prices is is usually better to buy a new one. I went through four in the last year and a half.

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... With the current prices is is usually better to buy a new one. I went through four in the last year and a half.

Jaap,

 

How many running repairs have you needed in the last few years as a result car accidents and falling down hills if I recall correctly?:o Are you 'more reliable' than your R8's?:D

 

Pete.

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Have to say, I have a D700 and 3 Leitax'd R lenses and I have never been happier using an SLR with Leica glass...

 

Regards,

 

Bill

 

Hi Bill. You'd still be doing manual stop down with the Leitax/Nikon combo, wouldn't you?

 

Re the DMR, I'm still very impressed with the image quality. I don't miss high ISOs. I pretty well always shoot at 100, like I did with film. :-)

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Jaap,

 

How many running repairs have you needed in the last few years as a result car accidents and falling down hills if I recall correctly?:o Are you 'more reliable' than your R8's?:D

 

Pete.

More R8s than car crashes and falling down hills :D. And more repairable too - even my rather battered old body healed without costing anything -on guaranty as it were. ;)
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I had a look online at the Red cameras. They have an M lens mount as part of the system (though only good for 50mm or longer apparently - the protruding elements of shorter lenses get in the way) and there is also a Canon mount. R lenses could be fitted to that. Voila - R solution. Bit expensive though. And the pixel arrangement is not ideal for 2 x 3 imaging.

 

Using R lenses for videography with a Canon or Nikon body could be lots of fun. And I'd have Harry Potter style pictures instead of old fashioned stills. Hmm.

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A hot-running (sounds like a hair-dryer) 3kg-camera with 15x30mm-sensor, 13MP and compressed output for photography? Not an ideal choice, IMHO.

 

"I'd have Harry Potter style pictures instead"

Then you should get an ARRICAM (like used in most HP-films) instead, but even bigger and more expensive^^

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Hi Bill. You'd still be doing manual stop down with the Leitax/Nikon combo, wouldn't you?

 

Hi Rick,

 

Yes I do. But then I am a wide-open buff myself, so rarely stop down anyway. The higher shutter speed on the D700 takes care of 90% of my shooting.

 

Regards,

 

Bill

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Yeah I have to say I was a bit surprised to see the prices for those Red camera bodies, with 'only' 14 MP. Wassup with those? Yet the Red site shows examples of high end magazine cover shots and movies shot with Red. Must have something good going for it.

 

Well, its primarily a motion camera. It shoots up to 300fps at that resolution. Ive been using my R's on it for awhile.

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Isn't the RED running at max. 96fps without windowing (full resolution @ 5120x2700) although with higer compression ratio (1:12 - still ~5GBit/s) ?

 

These cinematography-cameras have to deal with very high internal data rates, the sensor read-out and processing have to handle that.

 

Photography-cameras with video-function only read out parts of the sensor (line-skipping) to generate sufficient frame rates for video and therefore cannot be compared in quality to true digital cinematography-solutions.

 

Right now, cinematography and photography are still separate worlds, also technically.

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...........Right now, cinematography and photography are still separate worlds, also technically.

 

In the main I tend to agree with you, RED's Epic & Scarlet are certainly not ideal cameras for everyday walk around photography...........Nevertheless I was very tempted to get one a while back, having tried an Epic at RED Pinewood. Eventually common sense prevailed though, since I have no real need for that level of motion capability so the size, weight and complexity would have been overkill for me.

 

They are used by professionals for high end jobs though, particularly where convergence is required, i.e. stills and motion from the same shoot. 'Normal' VDSLR's are also used that way of course.

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Isn't the RED running at max. 96fps without windowing (full resolution @ 5120x2700) although with higer compression ratio (1:12 - still ~5GBit/s) ?

 

 

that is correct, my point was thats its a motion camera first. Ive never used it for stills only. But when shooting commercials, its common to extract stills of the scene for print ads, and having the luxury of doing this is nice.

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Well, its primarily a motion camera. It shoots up to 300fps at that resolution. Ive been using my R's on it for awhile.

 

You've got a few of my lenses there. :-) Nice setup.

 

So you're using the Canon mount and a Leica to Canon adapter? Which L to C do you prefer?

 

Thanks. Rick.

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You've got a few of my lenses there. :-) Nice setup.

 

So you're using the Canon mount and a Leica to Canon adapter? Which L to C do you prefer?

 

Thanks. Rick.

 

I have the Leitax adapters on the R lenses and the Red Canon Mount on the Epic.

The Leitax mount screws onto the camera directly on top of the R Mount. It looks like a factory mount. Ive kept all the original screws separated for each lens in the hopes Leica revives the R with a new body :)

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Hello all.

 

After having a play with my R equipment last weekend I'm wondering if we have any reports on R lenses being used with either the EOS 5D Mk III or the Nikon D800.

 

Thank you. Rick.

I use a R9/DMR but I performed some tests with a Canon 5D Mk III to prepare the future (my DMR won't be eternal). You can see few images here (text in French).
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I have been Leitaxing and according to mood reversing back to R mount for the last three years but finally plucked courage and got hold of a metal file to adopt R 35mm f1.4 to fit full frame Nikon.

 

Here is the result, shot on M9/50mm f1.4 but should have used M 35mm f1.4 instead :o

 

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Summilux R 35mm on D700 via Leitax by mmradman, on Flickr

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