marioalessi Posted December 22, 2010 Share #41 Posted December 22, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Carriage supplanted by Horseless Carriage Horseless Carriage supplanted by automobile with crank start Automobile with crank start supplanted by Automobile with electric start You can adapt to the world and become part of it, or you can scoff and ignore it, and become irrelevant. Eventually we all die. I think "Living in Nostalgia" is some peoples way of justifying not taking the time or being scared or not capable to exist in the current world. Just as my brother child once asked "Dad what is a CD?" My brother replied "Its what MP3 came on instead of the internet." His sone replied, Im glad we dont have to go buy those anymore. If you only view photos on the computer, then its possible to make digital photos that you cant distinguish from analog photos. If you get enough processing power you can rearrange the orderly grain of digital (the pixel) into the random grain of film. I think our brains are processing the fact that all our sensors are capturing on a non random grid. whether its staggered or diagonal or not its still non random. While each of cameras the same model, essentially have the same substrate pattern that the image is captured on. If we all used film again, each film piece is different from the next. I would bet that the once quest for the finest grain, if it continued would produce a negative that has the same mental effect on people as the digital does. You are adding grain to the light that comes through the lens with real photography. Its just that your grain is added at the time of capture in the form of the film. I remember when laser printers came out you have a line screen and a pattern. If you used the stochastic random line screen pattern when printing the photography looked ver analog. I think a more important missing thing is the dynamic range that film has. Once sensors get better. I think we can add the grain in the computer, and the dynamic range will add to the "film look" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 Hi marioalessi, Take a look here Leica M8 "Not a real camera"!!!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted December 22, 2010 Share #42 Posted December 22, 2010 Film may have more dynamic range - although the term different dynamic range might be more appropriate, as (negative) film blocks in the shadows and digital blocks in the highlights-, the print is the limiting factor. Digital exceeds print - film exceeds print - so any advantage in this respect is moot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted December 22, 2010 Share #43 Posted December 22, 2010 Wow - what a wonderful summation of the 'current' state of comparing Digital Capture to Film Capture? R. in Mi. Film may have more dynamic range - although the term different dynamic range might be more appropriate, as (negative) film blocks in the shadows and digital blocks in the highlights-, the print is the limiting factor. Digital exceeds print - film exceeds print - so any advantage in this respect is moot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiOnara Posted December 22, 2010 Share #44 Posted December 22, 2010 In the end a good photograph transcends the digital/film argument and just is a good photograph that captivates. Maybe she was just a crap photographer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 22, 2010 Share #45 Posted December 22, 2010 In the end a good photograph transcends the digital/film argument... Exactly donate me a couple S bodies and lenses and i'm sure i'll do nice photographs despite my hating big cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 22, 2010 Share #46 Posted December 22, 2010 Wow - what a wonderful summation of the 'current' state of comparing Digital Capture to Film Capture?R. in Mi. I find it a wholly uninteresting distinction - if I want my image to look like a film image, I grab my M6. If digital, my M9. So what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted December 22, 2010 Share #47 Posted December 22, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) If 'Someone' donates a couple'o S Bodies and Lenses - I'm Selling the Suckers and Buying A House! Exactly donate me a couple S bodies and lenses and i'm sure i'll do nice photographs despite my hating big cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted December 22, 2010 Share #48 Posted December 22, 2010 Just as likely she was a Harpie who likes to Carp about Crap! In the end a good photograph transcends the digital/film argument and just is a good photograph that captivates. Maybe she was just a crap photographer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted December 22, 2010 Share #49 Posted December 22, 2010 Which is why I thought your 'summation' was so wonderful. It eviscerated the 'holy grails' of Film Only/Film Forever 'Disciples'. The Merits and Deficiencies of 'Top Tier' equipment in the 'Analogue' & 'Digital' Realms have reached a point where the choices between them have become more about Aesthetics and Creative Methodologies than strictly because one beats the other for Technical Pinnacles of one sort or the other. You are right that, in many ways the debate & the distinction has become much less interesting because the 'War' Between the two options has so dramatically cooled. The Fight is nearly Over, the Photographers Won. R in Mi. I find it a wholly uninteresting distinction - if I want my image to look like a film image, I grab my M6. If digital, my M9. So what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiOnara Posted December 22, 2010 Share #50 Posted December 22, 2010 Exactly donate me a couple S bodies and lenses and i'm sure i'll do nice photographs despite my hating big cameras. Whats your address? I'll send 2 over for Xmas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.