stuny Posted March 19, 2013 Share #4701 Posted March 19, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I remember trying to synch the SU carbs on my '58 MGA coupe. I'd rather forget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 Hi stuny, Take a look here Name this car..... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
wlaidlaw Posted March 20, 2013 Share #4702 Posted March 20, 2013 Your next one from the family albums: My Grandfather was apparently a truly abysmal driver. He had an accident within 5 minutes of getting his first car, a Ford Model T in 1915, when he managed to drive into a lamp post in Inverurie, the salesman having driven him the 12 miles from Aberdeen as a driving lesson. He carried on having regular but luckily, low speed accidents for the next 15+ years. This carried on until my father and my great uncle persuaded him that he should give up driving for the sake of his long suffering wife (and every other road user within a 50 mile radius) and get either his gardener or one of his factory employees to drive him. My father had envisaged he would get something sensible but with lots of room in the back, like a Lanchester 21 or maybe a 20 HP Austin. Instead, the salesman saw him coming and sold him the car below. It was, according to my father, an appalling heap of junk and given the year he bought it new, must have been sitting around unsold for at least two years. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2277657'>More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 20, 2013 Share #4703 Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) Crossley 14 dunk Edited March 20, 2013 by dkpeterborough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 21, 2013 Share #4704 Posted March 21, 2013 Crossley 14 dunk Dunk, Good guess but not a Crossley. Worse than that and quite a lot more expensive. My father said that for about the same money as my grandfather paid for this thing, He could have had a nearly new small Rolls Royce 20/25, which if not the fastest car, is at least reliable and pleasant to drive. However I think my grandfather, who was a very modest and sensitive man, would have felt that buying an RR during the depression, sent out all the wrong signals. Wilson 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 21, 2013 Share #4705 Posted March 21, 2013 I was wrong about pricing. The bare chassis price was actually slightly cheaper than the 15.9 HP Crossley. However my history book also says that they were being sold by the company concerned at a huge loss each vehicle, so the listed pricing was unrealistic. The company effectively went bust soon after this model came out, probably as a result of its introduction. A 20/25 Rolls Royce would have been considerably more expensive at over £1100 for the rolling chassis with tool kit. FYI at this time, the most expensive chassis you could purchase in the UK, was the 45/280 8 cylinder Mercedes Benz at £2185. The V12 DS8 Maybach or Supercharged SJ Duesenberg might have been even more expensive but are not listed in Autocar of the period. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 21, 2013 Share #4706 Posted March 21, 2013 Bean Short 14 dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 21, 2013 Share #4707 Posted March 21, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Bean Short 14 dunk Closer to their 18/50 than the short 14 but this car more of a Has-Bean than a Bean. BTW, did you know that after Bean stopped making cars and became a component supplier to the motor industry, George Eyston's magnificent Thunderbolt World LSR car (sadly destroyed in a warehouse fire in New Zealand in 1946), was made in Bean's midlands factory. I well remember having the Dinky Toy of it. It had 8 wheels, 4 in dual pairs at the back and a "chinese" four at the front. It weighed over 7 tons and had twin 36.5 litre Rolls Royce engines producing a total of 4,700BHP. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2278212'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 22, 2013 Share #4708 Posted March 22, 2013 I can see you are all struggling on this one so I better give you a clue. This is a car company whose rootes are in the midlands. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 25, 2013 Share #4709 Posted March 25, 2013 Another clue needed? It was not very good at getting up steep slopes or safe coming down them, so its name was a bit of a misnomer. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 25, 2013 Share #4710 Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Must be a Hillman ... but not sure about the model but maybe a Hillman 14 dunk Edited March 25, 2013 by dkpeterborough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 25, 2013 Share #4711 Posted March 25, 2013 Dunk, It was a 20HP (2.6 litres) Hillman Straight Eight. The new cost was £425 in 1931, although I don't think they were made after 1930. It was designed by Maurice Wilks, later of Rover/Land Rover fame. My father used to describe it as the most miserable apology of a car he had ever driven. Wilks must have been having a really off day when he penned this one. With a straight eight, it is essential that the crankshaft is stiff both torsionally and in beam, well supported by lots of bearings. The Hillman crankshaft has all the structural integrity of a wet noodle and is supported only in 4 bearings. It used to need its bearings re-metalled every 10,000 miles or less (presumably due to the crank flexing), had no torque at low speed, vibrated like mad if you revved it, handled like a drunk pig and had little in the way of brakes. My grandfather kept it until 1934 and then exchanged it for the first of series of Humber Pullmans that he owned, which were far superior cars. The financial consequences of the awful Hillman Straight Eight, drove the company into the arms of Billy Rootes, who also owned Humber, Singer, Commer, Karrier and later, Sunbeam and Talbot. You have already seen a full picture of the car, so no more to show. Over to you Dunk. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 25, 2013 Share #4712 Posted March 25, 2013 Thanks for the interesting technical details Wilson - sounds as if it was a real pain of a car. The clue for my contribution is, "Ho ... Ho ... Ho " Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best wishes dunk Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best wishes dunk ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2281800'>More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 26, 2013 Share #4713 Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Engine is probably a 2.6 litre 4 cylinder OHV, 3 valves per cylinder, bore and stroke 80x130mm; top speed is circa 60 mph but the owner told me the steering becomes very wobbly at speed. When I asked the owner if I could see the engine, he was reluctant to show me so I could not take any photos. The car was purchased from a scrapyard by the current owner's father in 1950 and has been used as the family runabout car for the last 62 years. The owner told me that his father never had an owner's handbook and that all maintenance over the years has been done intuitively. When the body was removed from the chassis many years ago, no coachbuilder's name was discovered - but the style and design of the body is typical of Weyman - who also built Rolls Royce bodies. Best wishes dunk Edited March 26, 2013 by dkpeterborough Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Engine is probably a 2.6 litre 4 cylinder OHV, 3 valves per cylinder, bore and stroke 80x130mm; top speed is circa 60 mph but the owner told me the steering becomes very wobbly at speed. When I asked the owner if I could see the engine, he was reluctant to show me so I could not take any photos. The car was purchased from a scrapyard by the current owner's father in 1950 and has been used as the family runabout car for the last 62 years. The owner told me that his father never had an owner's handbook and that all maintenance over the years has been done intuitively. When the body was removed from the chassis many years ago, no coachbuilder's name was discovered - but the style and design of the body is typical of Weyman - who also built Rolls Royce bodies. Best wishes dunk ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2282295'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 26, 2013 Share #4714 Posted March 26, 2013 [ATTACH]368157[/ATTACH] Maybe this will help Best wishes dunk Not really Dunk. Upmarket cars from the early 1920's all looked like this. I was going to say a Sizaire Berwick 25/50 but I cannot think of any Ho Ho Ho connection and I think the radiator is slightly too curved. I have been trying to read the language on the knock off cap to see if it says Undo or Aus. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 26, 2013 Share #4715 Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Not a Sizaire Berwick ... but maybe this close up of the fuel tank might give you a clue. And a further clue is that the car has a certain 'star' quality. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best wishes dunk Edited March 26, 2013 by dkpeterborough Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best wishes dunk ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2282321'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 26, 2013 Share #4716 Posted March 26, 2013 The engine size points me towards a Delahaye 12CV but ho ho ho? That would point me towards Hotchkiss but at that time they only made the large 6 cylinder AK model followed in 1923 by the rather dreary AM with a 2.4L side valve engine. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 26, 2013 Share #4717 Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Not a Delahaye but you are on the right track. Here's the whole side view but the star quality is not visible from this angle ... and, " Ho ... Ho ... Ho ... " ... uttered slowly, is a little bit facetious. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Here's a little more ... Best wishes dunk Edited March 26, 2013 by dkpeterborough Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Here's a little more ... Best wishes dunk ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2282392'>More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 26, 2013 Share #4718 Posted March 26, 2013 And another clue about a clue ... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best wishes dunk Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best wishes dunk ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2282494'>More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted March 26, 2013 Share #4719 Posted March 26, 2013 Really tried to avoid, as I maybe have no good pictures at the moment, but before you post all your photographs of that Cottin et Desgouttes from the mid 1920´s (is that a Type 16?), I say something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 26, 2013 Share #4720 Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Yes, you are correct Ronald ... bit more info ... http://cottindesgouttes.free.fr/en/RestoredCars.htm Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ... and the 'Ho ... Ho ... Ho ... ' is an impression of a Frenchman taking the Mickey out of an Englishman saying, "Haw, Haw. Haw" ... I saw the car at two classic car shows last summer - once in Stamford Meadows and once at Maxey - both near Peterborough. Your turn now Ronald. Best wishes dunk Edited March 26, 2013 by dkpeterborough Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ... and the 'Ho ... Ho ... Ho ... ' is an impression of a Frenchman taking the Mickey out of an Englishman saying, "Haw, Haw. Haw" ... I saw the car at two classic car shows last summer - once in Stamford Meadows and once at Maxey - both near Peterborough. Your turn now Ronald. Best wishes dunk ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2282661'>More sharing options...
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