NigelG Posted February 6 Share #23101 Posted February 6 Advertisement (gone after registration) 15 hours ago, pippy said: A tenny little bit of the extraordinary High-Tech detailing to be found on this amazingly successful model?......😸...... Buckminster Fuller would have been proud! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. I think the biggest clue was the lower half of the name Mason here….😉 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pippy Posted February 6 Share #23102 Posted February 6 (edited) 32 minutes ago, NigelG said: I think the biggest clue was the lower half of the name Mason here….😉 To be perfectly honest, Nigel, there wasn't much else that would have helped most of us! Weirdly I would have been able to 'Spot the Car' straight away but only because Tamiya had done such a fantastic job - especially in terms of some of the under-body detail - with their release of the Ludwig / Pescarolo winning car as a 1/24th scale plastic kit. Here is a link to their model (one of which I had bought when it was released back in the day!); https://www.emodels.co.uk/tamiya-1-24-newman-porsche-956-84-le-mans-winner-24049-plastic-model-kit.html Interestingly I don't remember the #7 car having worn sponsorship by Pierlant Imperial. I really should go and dig out the transparency boxes to check. Certainly neither the #8 Johannson / Schlesser nor the #12 Schornstein / Merl / "John Winter" entries (the latter placing 5th o/a) wasn't sporting such decals in some of the frames I have to hand but these images are from qualifying so matters might have changed for the actual race?... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. EDIT : I might well be mistaken but I believe the tousle-haired chap in the lower pic is Stefan Johansson himself over-seeing 'Tinkering'... Edited February 6 by pippy 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. EDIT : I might well be mistaken but I believe the tousle-haired chap in the lower pic is Stefan Johansson himself over-seeing 'Tinkering'... ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=5752868'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 6 Share #23103 Posted February 6 (edited) We looked at getting a 962 after we had a "near thing" in our Porsche 910, when a front disc brake failed and we nearly went into an earth bank at Dijon Prenois. The front crash structure of the 910 is basically your feet, which sit beyond the front axle line, with just a sheet of thin 20g alloy between you and the accident. We decided our abilities were not up to the 750 to 800 BHP of 962 and bought a 3 litre Lola-Cosworth DFV T288 sports racer instead (450 BHP). Sadly this proved to be very unreliable due to severe vibration in the rear suspension from a design flaw. The T288 unlike its predecessors used the large Hewland LG500 gearbox for improved long distance reliability, rather than the much more compact DG400. This involved running the drive shafts at very steep angles and using Hooke universal joints rather than constant velocity Repezza joints. This inevitably results in torsional vibrations leading to stub axle failures. After retiring from races at both Nurburgring (New Circuit) and Paul Ricard with only three wheels on our wagon, we asked the FIA if we could replace the Hooke joints with either modern high angle Repezza joints or with rubber doughnuts. No was their unreasonable response. We sold it to the USA where they take a much more relaxed and reasonable approach to required modifications, especially safety related. Open to anyone to post a new car. Wilson PS I believe the nozzle with the open close lever beside it is not for fuel but for the built in air jacks. Edited February 6 by wlaidlaw 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted February 6 Share #23104 Posted February 6 2 hours ago, pippy said: To be perfectly honest, Nigel, there wasn't much else that would have helped most of us! Weirdly I would have been able to 'Spot the Car' straight away but only because Tamiya had done such a fantastic job - especially in terms of some of the under-body detail - with their release of the Ludwig / Pescarolo winning car as a 1/24th scale plastic kit. Here is a link to their model (one of which I had bought when it was released back in the day!); https://www.emodels.co.uk/tamiya-1-24-newman-porsche-956-84-le-mans-winner-24049-plastic-model-kit.html Interestingly I don't remember the #7 car having worn sponsorship by Pierlant Imperial. I really should go and dig out the transparency boxes to check. Certainly neither the #8 Johannson / Schlesser nor the #12 Schornstein / Merl / "John Winter" entries (the latter placing 5th o/a) wasn't sporting such decals in some of the frames I have to hand but these images are from qualifying so matters might have changed for the actual race?... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. EDIT : I might well be mistaken but I believe the tousle-haired chap in the lower pic is Stefan Johansson himself over-seeing 'Tinkering'... The #7 car did indeed wear 'Pierlant Imperial' advertising during the race, here is a 1/43 model I made of the 1984 winner, 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 6 Share #23105 Posted February 6 (edited) 52 minutes ago, 250swb said: The #7 car did indeed wear 'Pierlant Imperial' advertising during the race, here is a 1/43 model I made of the 1984 winner, Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thanks for that, Steve, and a very nice model it is! I knew (having had one myself) that the Tamiya kit had the 'Pierlant' decals but what I couldn't remember was if the actual car wore the signage during the race. It would be unlike Tamiya (and other manufacturers!) to make such an error but, having known my own transparencies of the #8 and #12 cars (as posted) for all this time, there was a smidgen of doubt in my mind... So, in order to put said mind at rest on this matter for once and for all I've just had a little root through some film stock from the race which I haven't looked at for forty years! The very second frame from the very first roll of B'n'W which I dragged out had the following image of the #7 car (approaching the Dunlop Bridge if I'm not mistaken). This copy-neg was rattled-off as quick as quick could be (placed on an upturned studio softbox!) but serves its purpose; The little semi-circular notch towards the bottom-left edge of the negative-frame tells me that this roll was put through my Nikon F2 which, I believe, is counter to Forum Rules but if we all turn a deaf...erm...eye perhaps I'll get away with having posted it? I should probably have another look through the rolls - there must be over a dozen from the race - to see what else might be lurking undiscovered... Philip. Edited February 6 by pippy 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted February 6 Share #23106 Posted February 6 Just post it in the film forums…😉 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 6 Share #23107 Posted February 6 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 40 minutes ago, NigelG said: Just post it in the film forums…😉 😸 Alternatively I could state (with 'Hand on Heart'!) that the snap, as posted, was photographed using an M Monochrom with a 65mm f3.5 Elmar mounted on a 16464 ring... 😺 Philip. Edited February 6 by pippy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 6 Share #23108 Posted February 6 2 hours ago, wlaidlaw said: ...PS I believe the nozzle with the open close lever beside it is not for fuel but for the built in air jacks... Ah! I missed this little nugget earlier so thanks for that, Wilson, as it makes more sense that way! As far as the 962 goes? I'm sure you have a copy of the Nick Mason / Mark Hales volume 'Into the Red'? Their observations regarding the machine (as with all other cars to be honest!) make for very interesting reading! Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 6 Share #23109 Posted February 6 Philip, It was Nick Mason during a lunch at Goodwood, who suggested we get a 956 or 962, after all the problems we were having with the ex-Ronnie Peterson Ferrari 312 PB (99% Lucas fuel injection related). The original 12 cylinder rotary distributor/pump was worn out and Ferrari made a complete bog of re-sleeving the injection pump plungers, so that the fuel was not fully shutting off on the over-run and pooling in the manifolds. We probably made it worse by closing the butterflies near completely to try and get it to idle below 3000 RPM, so that the vacuum got to a level on the over-run where it sucked the butterflies open, which together with the pooled fuel, gave a burst of power, just when you did not want it. Nick felt that a 956 or 962 could be made far more reliable and you had a nice PDK gearbox instead of the rather agricultural gearbox on the 312. The PDK 8 speed box I have on my Panamera is brilliant. I wish we had gone for the Porsche rather than the Lola, which was a dog of a car. Wilson 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted February 7 Share #23110 Posted February 7 Who wants to step in for Wilson and post the next mystery car? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted February 7 Share #23111 Posted February 7 Anyone care to take a crack at this beauty ?......I don't expect the solution will take very long. The usual info, please. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=5753516'>More sharing options...
Graham (G4FUJ) Posted February 7 Share #23112 Posted February 7 Austin 7 Ulster? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted February 7 Share #23113 Posted February 7 Morgan 3-wheeler? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 7 Share #23114 Posted February 7 Frazer Nash Le Mans Replica Mk1? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted February 8 Share #23115 Posted February 8 None of the above, although one partial model designation in one of the above three guesses is correct. JZG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 8 Share #23116 Posted February 8 1935 Aston Martin Ulster? Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted February 9 Share #23117 Posted February 9 Thank you, Wilson, that is absolutely correct, and this is an Aston-Martin Ulster. This wonderful series of automobiles was built from 1934 through about 1936, with 20 (or so) 'customer' models and 7 works team cars produced. They were quite successful, garnering many class wins and earning a well-deserved reputation for being the most driveable and enjoyable Aston-Martins. I'm not sure of the provenance of this particular Ulster, nor can I attest whether it's a 'civilian' model or a works car since the owner was not about when I ran across this jewel at Sears Point a few years back - obviously it was fresh out of the shop for a well done and faithful restoration by someone who really knew what they were doing. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=5754220'>More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted February 9 Share #23118 Posted February 9 ...and the obligatory rear view of this splendid little jewel. Images with M240-P / 35mm Summilux FLE JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=5754221'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 9 Share #23119 Posted February 9 As usual open to all to post the next car. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted February 10 Share #23120 Posted February 10 Who would like to step in for Wilson and post the next mystery car? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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