dkCambridgeshire Posted May 22, 2023 Share #19761 Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 hours ago, wlaidlaw said: Dunk, Was it not more of a centrifugally operated clutch allied to a freewheel than a true automatic gearbox? When the Times tested this car, they commented adversely on the absence of ashtrays. Odd as the company's owner was a known smoker as were most men at this time. Wilson Yes Wilson; there are no actual 'gears' (apart from reverse) but Wiki describes the auto transmission as: "An early automatic gearbox was available between 1934 and 1936 but few sold." Perhaps buyers did not trust the new fangled transmission which, in other marques, would have experienced difficulty competing against established fluid flywheel/ preselector transmissions. General Motors paid the transmission's developer a substantial $sum for the US manufacturing rights – but GM did not commence production. Surprised that no TLF members have so far not suggested an ID. Over a twelve (ish) year production period, over 12K examples of the gradually upgraded model were ordered/bought with the conventional g/box. I'll post a non-Wiki link documenting the story / history of the special auto-transmission when the actual car model name is posted BW, dunk Edited May 22, 2023 by dkCambridgeshire additional info 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 Hi dkCambridgeshire, Take a look here Name this car..... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
dkCambridgeshire Posted May 22, 2023 Share #19762 Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) Please do not pay too much attention to GM's interest in the optional automatic transmission; it's not a USA manufactured car. Edited May 22, 2023 by dkCambridgeshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted May 23, 2023 Share #19763 Posted May 23, 2023 The model name continued to be used post WW2 by which time it was a very different car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 23, 2023 Share #19764 Posted May 23, 2023 The body change in 1935 was not in my view an improvement. It went from a rather elegant and upright saloon, if a tad staid, to a melted looking dumpy and ordinary body, typical of many of the then new unitary body styles, first introduced by Budd and Pressed Steel Fisher in the USA. The dies used at that time, could not make sharp creases or tight curves in the steel sheet. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelmer Posted May 23, 2023 Share #19765 Posted May 23, 2023 16 hours ago, dkCambridgeshire said: Please do not pay too much attention to GM's interest in the optional automatic transmission; it's not a USA manufactured car. British? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted May 23, 2023 Share #19766 Posted May 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Lelmer said: British? Correct, it's British. BW, dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham (G4FUJ) Posted May 23, 2023 Share #19767 Posted May 23, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not sure why and I'm probably wide of the mark (marque? ) but Austin comes to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted May 23, 2023 Share #19768 Posted May 23, 2023 I was thinking Lanchester, but I don’t think they had suicide doors in the rear … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted May 23, 2023 Share #19769 Posted May 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Graham (G4FUJ) said: Not sure why and I'm probably wide of the mark (marque? ) but Austin comes to mind. ... and the model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted May 23, 2023 Share #19770 Posted May 23, 2023 32 minutes ago, IkarusJohn said: I was thinking Lanchester, but I don’t think they had suicide doors in the rear … Not a Lanchester Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham (G4FUJ) Posted May 24, 2023 Share #19771 Posted May 24, 2023 7 hours ago, dkCambridgeshire said: ... and the model? Absolutely no idea Dunk! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted May 24, 2023 Share #19772 Posted May 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Graham (G4FUJ) said: Absolutely no idea Dunk! Yes it's an Austin – but which model? BW, dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham (G4FUJ) Posted May 24, 2023 Share #19773 Posted May 24, 2023 4 hours ago, dkCambridgeshire said: Yes it's an Austin – but which model? BW, dunk i.e. I had no idea which model. I'll take a stab at 12hp or a 10/4. Manor Park Classics had one of the latter for sale? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted May 24, 2023 Share #19774 Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) Graham, Not an Austin 12 HP; not a 'straight 4 cylinders' model. Another photo minus its model name – but the normally 'visible' model name is not the complete name Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 24, 2023 by dkCambridgeshire additional info & photo Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4778527'>More sharing options...
Graham (G4FUJ) Posted May 24, 2023 Share #19775 Posted May 24, 2023 Ah, it's larger than the two I mentioned. I'd have to resort to Google to get any further. Someone must recognise the model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 24, 2023 Share #19776 Posted May 24, 2023 Sweet.......😀 Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted May 24, 2023 Share #19777 Posted May 24, 2023 54 minutes ago, Graham (G4FUJ) said: Ah, it's larger than the two I mentioned. I'd have to resort to Google to get any further. Someone must recognise the model? What's so irregular about using Google or any other search engine? We live in a digital age and sensible use of a search engine to check / pinpoint the model name of a car is not dissimilar to, e.g., consulting a book(s). Other members use their books and one example of book use was in the ID for the recent Goggomobil – where the member posted a page from his book. Few people have 100% infallible photographic memories for every car manufactured 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham (G4FUJ) Posted May 24, 2023 Share #19778 Posted May 24, 2023 Austin 16? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 24, 2023 Share #19779 Posted May 24, 2023 At first I thought it was the very similar looking Morris Big Six (16HP), which was also offered with a semi automatic gearbox in 1935. This was a different system to the Hayes variable speed toroidal gearbox on the Austin, which still required the use of a manual clutch to move off. A version of the Hayes gearbox much later, was offered in the Lotus Elite in the early 1960's. The Morris system used a centrifugal clutch together with a freewheel and a manual 4 speed box (synchro on top three). Once moving, you just lifted off the throttle and changed gear with the regular gear lever. You could only go into first when stationary. A housemaster at my school in Edinburgh had an Austin 16 of around 1930 which was on its very last legs. Before I joined the combined cadet force (minimum age 14) I was in the scouts which this man ran. He was one of the few good masters at that school and taught biology, which sadly I did not do but he also ran the scout troop. He gave us the Austin 16 to take apart to see how it all worked. He had bought a huge 1927 Rolls Royce Phantom 1 cabriolet, that had belonged to Sir Harry Lauder, the well known Scottish singer and music hall artist. We all used to go off to scout camp (about 10 boys) in, sitting on the furled hood and standing on the running boards of the Rolls, with the tents in a trailer behind. He had been a regular army colonel in the commandos before retiring at the end of the war, as he said he had had more than enough killing people. At scout camp he used to tell us of his exciting stories from WW2 and before that in Iraq, Malaysia, Borneo and Palestine. Wilson 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham (G4FUJ) Posted May 24, 2023 Share #19780 Posted May 24, 2023 Bigger than a 16. Austin 18 York? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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