Rona!d Posted September 28, 2022 Share #18521 Â Posted September 28, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Nobody wants to have a try? Someone has to start. Wild guess out of the blue: Morgan Plus 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham (G4FUJ) Posted September 29, 2022 Share #18522 Â Posted September 29, 2022 I think the wing top is too flat to be a Morgan, though the wing edge and sidelight would be correct for a late 60's onwards car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 29, 2022 Share #18523  Posted September 29, 2022 Morgan correct, Plus Four wrong. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 29, 2022 Share #18524  Posted September 29, 2022 vor einer Stunde schrieb wlaidlaw: Morgan correct, Plus Four wrong. Wilson "Morgan" was the starter. The "+4" was the "out of the blue" element because of the classic steel wheels 😉 There are others who can exactly determine the model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted September 29, 2022 Share #18525 Â Posted September 29, 2022 3-wheeler from the 1930s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 29, 2022 Share #18526 Â Posted September 29, 2022 vor einer Stunde schrieb stuny: 3-wheeler from the 1930s? very unlikely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 29, 2022 Share #18527  Posted September 29, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not a three wheeler. I have known this particular car for over 50 years, although to my very considerable surprise, the owner has recently decided to sell it, which I had thought he never would. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted September 29, 2022 Share #18528 Â Posted September 29, 2022 I don't know, but if this is not a Plus 4 is it a 4/....... I'll leave that open because if it is decided I won I'll have to reply with an unusual offering, but somebody else is welcome to take the reins and finish the answer. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted September 29, 2022 Share #18529 Â Posted September 29, 2022 The wheel suggests 1950s or perhaps early '60s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 29, 2022 Share #18530  Posted September 29, 2022 vor 58 Minuten schrieb stuny: The wheel suggests 1950s or perhaps early '60s Coming (a bit) closer 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 30, 2022 Share #18531  Posted September 30, 2022 10 hours ago, stuny said: The wheel suggests 1950s or perhaps early '60s Earlier. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted September 30, 2022 Share #18532 Â Posted September 30, 2022 Morgan 4-4, (pre Plus 4)Â dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham (G4FUJ) Posted September 30, 2022 Share #18533 Â Posted September 30, 2022 I shall have to look at the 1938 4/4 (or 4-4 if you were in sales/marketing at that time) in the factory collection on Monday (unless yet another tour is cancelled). The sidelight on top of the wing is the larger, later version from late 60s / early 70s fitted until sometime in the "noughties" when they were dropped as standard (to meet pedestrian safety regs). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 30, 2022 Share #18534  Posted September 30, 2022 2 hours ago, dkCambridgeshire said: Morgan 4-4, (pre Plus 4) dunk Correct Dunk. This is a 1947 4/4 with a 1267cc Standard Special Engine (uses a made for Morgan overhead valve conversion from the original Standard side valve block but other sources say the whole engine was made specially for Morgan. It was also used on the prototype of the post war Triumph Mayflower saloon). This was made for Morgan by Standard themselves. From around 1937, this replaced the earlier Coventry Climax engine, which had become both expensive and with uncertain supply. I have known this car since I first met my then brother-in-law to be in 1968, when he was rebuilding it from a rather dilapidated state. Spare parts were very difficult to source, so as at the time he simply wanted an every day car to use, some non-original parts such as the side and rear lights will have been used. The picture below is taken by me at my nephew's wedding in 2016 and is the last time I saw the car. The other photo is one taken by my brother-in-law for an advert for the car, earlier this year (he is not a photographer but I don't have a picture of the front of the car). I think it is currently on sale at the latest H&H auction. Your turn Wilson    Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4521051'>More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted September 30, 2022 Share #18535  Posted September 30, 2022 Thank you Wilson. I have a few recently photographed classic cars' pix to process and will post the next entry later today. The Morgan 4-4 was documented in the December 2016 and November 2017 Classic & Sports Car magazines.  BW, dunk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted September 30, 2022 Share #18536  Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) Make / Model / Type please  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! A very scarce model / type ... less than 500 manufactured BW, dunk  Edited September 30, 2022 by dkCambridgeshire Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! A very scarce model / type ... less than 500 manufactured BW, dunk  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4521259'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 30, 2022 Share #18537  Posted September 30, 2022 When my nephew started to drive off from the church in the 4/4, he initially went off in reverse. He had forgotten that this car has a Meadows gearbox with a reversed gate. Apparently this was not a popular feature with owners in 1947 (unless of course they had been Bugatti 35/51 drivers) and the Meadows box was soon replaced by a Moss gearbox, with conventional gate, similar to that fitted to Jaguars right up to the series 1 E-Type. Supposedly these gearboxes had synchromesh on 2nd (as well as 3rd and 4th) but on most Moss boxes, this had gone missing in action and to change down to 2nd, required double de-clutching. It certainly did on my 3.8L Mk.2 Saloon and on my XK150S. Rather like the Jaguars, the Moss box was fitted to Plus 4 Morgans up to the 1970's, including on the early Plus 8 cars. Graham will correct me if I am wrong but I think the Ford engined 4/4 cars mainly used a Ford gearbox. The 1961 4/4 we converted to a race car, initially had the weirdest gear change, a bit like a 2CV, where there was a long horizontal bar, which slid in and out of a tube welded to a ball joint in the bulkhead, with a knob on the end. You slid it backwards and forwards to select gears and wobbled the knob side to side to go across the gate. I seem to remember you had to lift the knob up to get reverse. We did not use that Ford gearbox and change for the race car but used a Ford close ratio "Rocket E" box with a cast aluminium remote change. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 30, 2022 Share #18538  Posted September 30, 2022 Dunk, We used to call those cars - The District Nurse's Cars. Wilson 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted September 30, 2022 Share #18539 Â Posted September 30, 2022 Car? Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted September 30, 2022 Share #18540  Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, dkCambridgeshire said: Car?  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited September 30, 2022 by dkCambridgeshire Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4521317'>More sharing options...
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