Rona!d Posted September 13, 2022 Share #18421 Â Posted September 13, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not Japanese, Michael. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted September 13, 2022 Share #18422  Posted September 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Rona!d said: Now?  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I do like this door-handle detail; very Stylish indeed! No idea what the car is. Looking forward to the 'reveal'. Philip. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 13, 2022 Share #18423  Posted September 13, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4508583'>More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted September 13, 2022 Share #18424 Â Posted September 13, 2022 Hello Ronald, Perhaps Italian? Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18425 Â Posted September 14, 2022 Not Italian, but made in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18426  Posted September 14, 2022 I would like to share another (less cropped) photo which might be helpful. Here the fully "non (logo) retouched" dashboard. It is a car produced in the 1940s and 1950s.   Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4508962'>More sharing options...
pippy Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18427 Â Posted September 14, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Ronald; looking at the photographs of the frontal treatment and the interior underneath the dash I have a suspicion that the car might be rear-engined. Is this correct or am I barking up the wrong tree? Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18428  Posted September 14, 2022 vor einer Stunde schrieb pippy: Ronald; looking at the photographs of the frontal treatment and the interior underneath the dash I have a suspicion that the car might be rear-engined. Possibly so, Philip. Might that crop help? The last shot possibly mirrored a predecessor btw. 😉  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4509021'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18429  Posted September 14, 2022 Renault 4CV Gordini De Luxe? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18430  Posted September 14, 2022 vor 5 Minuten schrieb wlaidlaw: Renault 4CV Gordini De Luxe? Wilson Unlikely, Wilson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18431  Posted September 14, 2022 So this will be the last crop before I uncover the car.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4509047'>More sharing options...
pippy Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18432 Â Posted September 14, 2022 47 minutes ago, Rona!d said: Possibly so, Philip. Might that crop help?... Only in that it finally rules-out the LP400 Countach.... Philip. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18433  Posted September 14, 2022 Though Ive never seen this car I do vaguely recall seeing photos. Still no idea, other than small, relatively inexpensive & European. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lx1jon Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18434 Â Posted September 14, 2022 Tatra, perhaps T600? Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lx1jon Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18435 Â Posted September 14, 2022 Or T97? Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18436 Â Posted September 14, 2022 vor 13 Minuten schrieb lx1jon: Tatra, perhaps T600? Jonathan Yes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18437  Posted September 14, 2022 vor 12 Minuten schrieb lx1jon: Or T97? Jonathan No 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18438  Posted September 14, 2022 Instead of another indoor photo I´ll post a pretty detailed link about the Tratraplan and the background history. My grandfather was interested in buying a new T600 as a replacement for his Adler 2.5 ltr Autobahn in the late 1940s but it wasn´t easy to find a dealer and service point nearby in Western Germany, so he decided to buy a VW Beetle Cabriolet and added a Mercedes 220B Cabriolet one or two years later. I still have a photo of a visitors Tatraplan he shot at one of his companies. Congratulations, Jonathan!  1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18439  Posted September 14, 2022 44 minutes ago, Rona!d said: ...My grandfather was interested in buying a new T600 as a replacement for his Adler 2.5 ltr Autobahn in the late 1940s but it wasn´t easy to find a dealer and service point nearby in Western Germany, so he decided to buy a VW Beetle Cabriolet... If you have any photographs of that car, Ronald, I'd be fascinated to see them! Or even any info you might have / know relating to it. Was it a Karmann-bodied version or one crafted by one of the smaller coachbuilders? As I'm sure you already know the convertible VW first became available in 1949 (June for the Hebmuller; 1st July for the Karmann) so any covertible from these early days is especially rare today. Without wishing to go too far off-topic and just for fun whilst we await the next puzzle I'll post a photograph-of-a-photograph (I can't find the neg) of a rather special Convertible Beetle here being put into service as a Wedding Car(!) in Heidelberg sometime around 2001; Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I was absolutely astonished to come across this car at all never mind the unusual circumstances of its presence! I'm sure the owner must appreciate its importance. Surely?...... Clearly, as can be seen by the shape of the side-window frames and the rear decklid, it is a Hebmuller. Sharp-eyed viewers will have spotted, however, that the car has the post-October 1952 style dashboard. There were only two Heb's made after this design-change; one in December '52 and the other, the very last Hebmuller to be built, in February 1953. By this time all production (since May '52 in fact) was undertaken by Karmann as the Hebmuller company, unable to recover after the disastrous fire of 23rd July 1949, had filed for bankruptcy and transferred all existing stock and materials to Karmann. A very sad end to a fine company. OK; Wittering Diversion Over; Carry On! Philip. 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I was absolutely astonished to come across this car at all never mind the unusual circumstances of its presence! I'm sure the owner must appreciate its importance. Surely?...... Clearly, as can be seen by the shape of the side-window frames and the rear decklid, it is a Hebmuller. Sharp-eyed viewers will have spotted, however, that the car has the post-October 1952 style dashboard. There were only two Heb's made after this design-change; one in December '52 and the other, the very last Hebmuller to be built, in February 1953. By this time all production (since May '52 in fact) was undertaken by Karmann as the Hebmuller company, unable to recover after the disastrous fire of 23rd July 1949, had filed for bankruptcy and transferred all existing stock and materials to Karmann. A very sad end to a fine company. OK; Wittering Diversion Over; Carry On! Philip. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4509231'>More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 14, 2022 Share #18440  Posted September 14, 2022 It was a "works" Karmann, a 1952 model (= Rheumaklappe") but made in 1951. My grandfather ordered a folding top limousine and a craftman in our town ordered a convertible but was unhappy with the cabriolet roof. So they switched their orders at the VW dealer. I know my dad has photographs of the cabrio in his albums, not sure if I have scanned them. Have to check. Your "Heb" might be one of the vehicles some guys privately switched into Hebmüllers. At a VW Cabriolet meeting in the early 1980s (with 300+ cabrios!!!) my dad explained me the car and what was "not original". If I recall right, you could order conversion kits somewhere (on a private basis). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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