Rona!d Posted February 13, 2022 Share #17041 Posted February 13, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) BAE Vantare GT (technically a DB9, alloy/carbon handmade, so closer to an AM than most retro „kit“ cars) I must admit I had three cars in mind and I had to check which of the three cars it was. The other were the David Brown Speedback GT and a home made vehicle, both based on Jaguars. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wlaidlaw Posted February 13, 2022 Share #17042 Posted February 13, 2022 There are more Aston recreations and look alike cars than you can shake a stick at. Everybody and their uncles are converting "cooking" DB4's into DB4GTZ cars and Aston themselves keep churning them out but at least theirs are well made. Richard Williams will make you a new classic racing FIA/FIVA approved DB4GTZ out of at least partially original parts, so that you can race it, while you keep your precious original in storage. Our original DB4GTZ (chassis #3 from 1959) was used as the development mule for Aston Martin in collaboration with Richard Williams to make the Sanction 2 Zagato cars. There is a company, something like JBW, who makes brand new DB4 or DB5 cars and I wonder if the pics above are of one of those. Wilson 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 13, 2022 Share #17043 Posted February 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Rona!d said: Because of the slim chrome trim around the headbeams it looks like a small Alfa Tipo 33 racer......Thanks for posting. If I would live in the UK I even might try to (test)drive one... As it happens the Tipo 33 in many of its guises is one (are several!) of my all-time favourite sports / race car types. Absolutely stunning. 1 hour ago, Rona!d said: BAE Vantare GT......(technically a DB9, alloy/carbon handmade, so closer to an AM than most retro „kit“ cars)...... A Tick and a Gold Star, Ronald! I saw it as it was leaving a small garden/square gathering of VERY interesting motor cars and managed to grab a snap or two. I then spoke to some folks still in the 'meet area' who filled me in with the details. They even searched-out a nicely produced envelope-pack-thing with some detail info and suchlike. I have to say it looked nicer in the 'metal' than my photographs suggest. The one here is the only finished car which currently exists out of a run of ten examples. The quality of build and the detailing are absolutely exquisite. I could probably - over time - bring myself to be able to live with the oversized wheel-rims............ Philip. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted February 14, 2022 Share #17044 Posted February 14, 2022 So here the next one. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4383399'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 14, 2022 Share #17045 Posted February 14, 2022 BMW 1600 Cabriolet from around 1968? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted February 14, 2022 Share #17046 Posted February 14, 2022 I would say early 70s and not entirely BMW's own work 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted February 14, 2022 Share #17047 Posted February 14, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, NigelG said: I would say early 70s and not entirely BMW's own work 😉 I'll guess the not entirely BMW portion is most likely a Baur contribution. JZG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted February 15, 2022 Share #17048 Posted February 15, 2022 All of you contributed to this riddle car. It is a BMW, it is early 1970s and not entirely BMW´s own work and there is a Baur contribution. Due to the long relationship between BMW and Baur they also made the 02-series convertibles for BMW. First came the "full cabrio" from 1968-1971 (around 1600 cars as 1600-02 and around 200 cars as 2002). The "full cabrio" wasn´t stiff enough so they created the targa version which was only made as 2002 model if I recall correctly. That´s our (poor condition) riddle car, a later model with the square rear lights. About 2.200 Targas made. Personally I really like the 02 series (one of the cars I drove in my youth was a wonderful orange early 1802 with Becker Mexico radio and Becker cassette player). It´s strange, but the 02 full cabriolet and the Targa were never my taste although I´m a BMW cabrio/roadster guy. So who is next? I would say John was closest as he named "Baur". Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4383809'>More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted February 15, 2022 Share #17049 Posted February 15, 2022 The full cabriolet was sold as "BMW 1600/2002 Cabriolet", the targa as "BMW 2002 Cabriolet". Both didn´t have "BAUR" in their "brochures model name". The successor (E21) had been sold as "Baur Topcabriolet" and "Bauer Hardtop Cabriolet" (315, 316, 318, 320, 323), today known as "TC2"-series Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted February 15, 2022 Share #17050 Posted February 15, 2022 Thanks, Ronald. Sorry for the delay, but I've had massive computer troubles the last few days - failed hard drive, lost files, difficulty retrieving inormation from my back-up....you name it. I really liked early BMWs ( my father owned a couple of 328s ), enough to buy a '73 lime green, 2002 tii, and then modifying it within an inch of its life. I agree that was the car that made BMW the legend it's become among 'sport sedans', and was enthusiastic enough about the brand to buy an '88 BMW M5. Nice car and a real eye opener performance-wise, but after I owned it a couple of years and used it as my company car, I got to drive a 'real' M5 ( owned by the manager of our German office in München ) on the autobahn, and realized that we truly are an automotive backwater on this side of the pond. The next puzzle car is an extremely faithful recreation of a one-off example, which in turn was one of a very limited run of cars. I expect It probably won't take long at all to identify this car given the knowledge among this group, but it's the best I can offer at this time, and I'll be more than happy to provide more clues and hints.................Good Luck. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4384326'>More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted February 16, 2022 Share #17051 Posted February 16, 2022 Gents, I´ll take a rest at this car and will enjoy your input and discussions so don´t wait for my first guess 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted February 16, 2022 Share #17052 Posted February 16, 2022 I've seen two of the characteristics, but that's it. I'm anxious to see the full car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 16, 2022 Share #17053 Posted February 16, 2022 Looks a bit like a Daytona Cobra or one of the other hardtop Cobras. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted February 16, 2022 Share #17054 Posted February 16, 2022 Wilson, not a Cobra / Shelby / Ford - but you certainly are in the correct period. Hint - this one is a British effort. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4384883'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted February 16, 2022 Share #17055 Posted February 16, 2022 The bulging rear wings suggest a potent engine/power to weight ratio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 16, 2022 Share #17056 Posted February 16, 2022 I wonder if it might be the low drag 1963 Lightweight E-type Jaguar. The rear window shape looks right. I spent some laps of the Nurburgring Old Timer GP, looking at the back of one of those. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted February 16, 2022 Share #17057 Posted February 16, 2022 Such low drag efforts but then this window seal and outer rear door hinge 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 16, 2022 Share #17058 Posted February 16, 2022 45 minutes ago, Rona!d said: Such low drag efforts but then this window seal and outer rear door hinge 😉 Not to mention all the rivets holding the thing together...but as I, too, am very familiar with the car I will also give this a miss-in-baulk. Nice car, though! Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted February 17, 2022 Share #17059 Posted February 17, 2022 5 hours ago, wlaidlaw said: I wonder if it might be the low drag 1963 Lightweight E-type Jaguar. The rear window shape looks right. I spent some laps of the Nurburgring Old Timer GP, looking at the back of one of those. Wilson Right you are, Wilson........and a very special lightweight it is. Originally, Jaguar planned on 18 Lightweight XKE Coupe, but only completed 12. They were fast and handled well enough, but were still not as competitive against GTOs, Cobras and Aston Zagatos, etc. as hoped. One of those 12 went to Peter Lindner, the Jaguar importer for Germany in Hamburg, who drove it together with Peter Nöcker in several races. At the end of that season the car was returned to Jaguar with a request to make it faster & more aerodynamic. Malcom Sayer, designer of the C & D Jaguars and heavily involved in the design of the XKE designed the fast-back hatch-back 'Low-drag E-Type' as the british motoring press dubbed the car, and the car went to racing again with Lindner / Nöcker. At Monthlery Linder crashed fatally and the car was heavily damaged and subsequently impounded. This car was widely considered even more attractive and effective than the original XKE and has been recreated by many independents, 'garagistas' ( enzo's derogatory term for non-professional racers / privateers ) and aftermarket Jaguar specialists. Jaguar themselves built an addiutional 6 models to 'finish' the originally planned run of 18, assigning the unused serial numbers in 2010 and delivering the cars in 2011/12. I can't tell you who built this replica, but I can attest to the fact that it is the closest to the original of any of the copies, recreations, and continuations I've seen, right down to the small details. Thanks for participating, JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4385126'>More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted February 17, 2022 Share #17060 Posted February 17, 2022 The original low-drag Sayer designed coupe retained its steel monocoque structure while the non-stressed panels were replaced with aluminum panels which were riveted on. The original car was powered by a modified 3.8 liter in-line six Jaguar motor making 340+ HP. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4385128'>More sharing options...
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