m410 Posted August 30, 2020 Share #13521 Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Looks like a 4WD/cross country version of a not too expensive car. Michelin tires but they nay have been added later. I was thinking of something like a Fiat Panda 4x4. European? ____________________________________________________________________ Fiat isn't it. European is right. You are from Vienna? Some people thought they were pretty expensive at the time and most came with Michelin tires but not this type. Technically, some were 4x4 and some were all wheel drive. Edited August 30, 2020 by m410 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a.j.z Posted August 30, 2020 Share #13522 Posted August 30, 2020 Yes, Vienna. Rather expensive makes me think of Range Rover but it doesn’t really fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m410 Posted August 30, 2020 Share #13523 Posted August 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, a.j.z said: Yes, Vienna. Rather expensive makes me think of Range Rover but it doesn’t really fit. Vienna, at least Austria is on the way to the answer. Range Rover is a no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted August 30, 2020 Share #13524 Posted August 30, 2020 I'm pretty sure that's a VW Westfalia Camper. JZG 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted August 30, 2020 Share #13525 Posted August 30, 2020 Then it was probably built by Steyr-Puch in Graz, Austria. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m410 Posted August 30, 2020 Share #13526 Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, John Z. Goriup said: I'm pretty sure that's a VW Westfalia Camper. JZG Yes, this is a VW. One body configuration could be a Westfalia Camper. However, most weren't. You do get a bonus point for mentioning "Westfalia Camper". The one in the photo isn't one of the Westfalia versions. 3 hours ago, a.j.z said: Then it was probably built by Steyr-Puch in Graz, Austria. Yes, they were built by Steyr-Puch in Graz and this has to do with your observation that it is 4x4. Edited August 30, 2020 by m410 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted August 30, 2020 Share #13527 Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 5 Minuten schrieb m410: Yes, they were built by Steyr-Puch in Graz and this has to do with your observation that it is 4x4. They were taken over by Magna but still assemble a lot of cars from various manufacturers (Mercedes, Jaguar, BMW, Mini etc) with a focus on 4x4 like the Mercedes/Puch G (in a country like Austria with a lot of mountains and snow this is a natural area of expertise, like skiing ;-)) . I drove the Steyr-Puch Pinzgauer during my military service. Edited August 30, 2020 by a.j.z 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m410 Posted August 30, 2020 Share #13528 Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, a.j.z said: I drove the Steyr-Puch Pinzgauer during my military service. Yes, I am from California and the Pinzgauers were very popular here with the VW Type 2 Bus guys. We could always expect a Pinzgauer or two to show up at a show. Most were I believe surplus purchases from the Swiss Army...? There were even a few dealers/importers in California for those. Yes, the I.D. subject was MADE IN AUSTRIA. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 30, 2020 by m410 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4036414'>More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted August 30, 2020 Share #13529 Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) Could be that they got them from the Swiss Army. The Pinzgauer was also exported. Great off-road, but you had to be careful because of the high center of gravity to avoid topping over to one side, Edited August 30, 2020 by a.j.z Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted August 31, 2020 Share #13530 Posted August 31, 2020 I saw one of those Austrian behemoths in Gao, in the Sahara in late 1988 - I think it was a Mercedes. All I remember was big tyres, wide, lots of flat surfaces and very competent looking! I think it was one of the 3 axle versions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m410 Posted August 31, 2020 Share #13531 Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, IkarusJohn said: I saw one of those Austrian behemoths in Gao, in the Sahara in late 1988 - I think it was a Mercedes. All I remember was big tyres, wide, lots of flat surfaces and very competent looking! I think it was one of the 3 axle versions. The Mercedes you refer to is amazing and also more than likely built in the Austrian factory as AJZ has mentioned. My ID photo is not that model or any other Mercedes-Benz product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZach Posted August 31, 2020 Share #13532 Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) VW T3 Syncro (Vanagon in the U.S.) Edited August 31, 2020 by AZach 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham (G4FUJ) Posted August 31, 2020 Share #13533 Posted August 31, 2020 12 hours ago, a.j.z said: The Pinzgauer was also exported. Great off-road, but you had to be careful because of the high center of gravity to avoid topping over to one side, I seem to remember the Haflinger was worse from that perspective! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 31, 2020 Share #13534 Posted August 31, 2020 Wasn't there one of the Steyr Puch vehicles which had a steering wheel and hand throttle at the back, so you could drive it from outside, if you were worried about it tipping over? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m410 Posted August 31, 2020 Share #13535 Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, AZach said: VW T3 Syncro (Vanagon in the U.S.) Yes, AZach this is a Volkswagen T3 Syncro. Known around the world as either a Transporter or Caravelle in Europe, Vanagon in the Americas and Microbus on the African continent. The Syncro nomenclature refers to a drive system that could deliver all the drive power to just one or to all four wheels and this proved to be excellent in the snow, sand or rugged off road terrain. All Syncros were built from 1986 to 1992 at Puch in Graz, Austria as mentioned earlier. Interesting to me was that huge Volkswagen was so liberal with different and very individualized option configurations for the Syncro. Even though the engine bay for this third generation T3 was designed for a variation of a flat six cylinder Porsche engine (which never happened), three different engines from four to five cylinders in petrol or diesel could be fitted. You could order a four or five speed transmission, three different drive system configurations, interiors in vinyl, fabric or full leather with seating from one to nine persons. Available body configurations were single or double cab trucks, panel vans, passenger vans and several different campers. Load capacities offered were either half ton (14") or three quarter ton (16") rated chassis. In the United States, General Motors and Ford lobbied the federal government and the Syncro 16 were not allowed to be imported. When purchased new, Syncros cost approximately one-third more than a standard 2WD T3. Today Syncros commonly bring two or three times their original purchase price/cost. Below is pictured a Syncro 14 Vanagon 7- Passenger , a white Syncro 16 Double Cab diesel in a Syncro gathering to cross the coastal mountains of central California, a yellow/white Syncro 16 high top Camper and a yellow Swiss mail service Syncro 14 Panel found (?) 2002 in a warehouse in Long Beach, California. Forgive me, not a Leica photo as I remember. AZach you are up. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 31, 2020 by m410 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4037013'>More sharing options...
AZach Posted August 31, 2020 Share #13536 Posted August 31, 2020 The throttle handle belongs to an electric scooter and is separate from the car to be named... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4037132'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted September 1, 2020 Share #13537 Posted September 1, 2020 German? Recent? Bimmer or Merc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZach Posted September 1, 2020 Share #13538 Posted September 1, 2020 Not German, recent yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim J Posted September 1, 2020 Share #13539 Posted September 1, 2020 Skoda Octavia? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZach Posted September 1, 2020 Share #13540 Posted September 1, 2020 Not any Skoda. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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