BBHewee Posted September 11, 2017 Share #10201  Posted September 11, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) In London... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3356590'>More sharing options...
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wlaidlaw Posted September 11, 2017 Share #10202 Â Posted September 11, 2017 As used by your friendly local drug dealer ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted September 11, 2017 Share #10203  Posted September 11, 2017 I came across this charming car yesterday. As there is no current item on here, I decided I would post this.  Name This Car 2.jpg  William   William, The car appears to have a French style and the radiator profile could be that of a Cottin et Desgouttes.  dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted September 11, 2017 Share #10204  Posted September 11, 2017 Thanks Dunk  Right country, but wrong make. Try again. I have a clue which would give the make away, but give it one more try before I give the clue. The former owner called it the 'Little Flea' because of the way that it jumped forward on start up.  William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 11, 2017 Share #10205  Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) I would guess a Clement Bayard post war (?1919-20) and before the Paris factory was sold to Citroen. They never really recovered from the factory at Mézières being taken over by the Germans in WW1. Most of the machinery was shipped back to Germany and the rest destroyed.  Wilson Edited September 11, 2017 by wlaidlaw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted September 11, 2017 Share #10206  Posted September 11, 2017 Thanks Wilson  You have the period and nationality right, but not the make. I'll give the clue which I mentioned to Dunk. The car in this case was bought from a car and cycle company.  William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hiles Posted September 12, 2017 Share #10207 Â Posted September 12, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Cars and cycles sounds like Peugeot. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted September 12, 2017 Share #10208  Posted September 12, 2017 Cars and cycles sounds like Peugeot.  Correct. Can anyone name the model, bought in 1923 for £230?  William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted September 12, 2017 Share #10209  Posted September 12, 2017 Peugeot 172 Torpedo  dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted September 12, 2017 Share #10210  Posted September 12, 2017 Correct. The name is usually Peugeot 172 Quadrilette. This car belonged to the Overend family of Airfield, Dundrum near Dublin. Lilly was the mother and drove this car into her 80s. The car was also driven by her daughter Naomi (born 1900). Naomi's older sister Letitia (born 1880) had a beautiful 1927 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost which is still in the family collection. Both sisters drove the Rolls into their 90s.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  The Airfield estate, which was also a family farm, has now been turned into a wonderful agricultural education and research centre. There were a lot of school tours when I was there last Friday. I had to get past a hoard of schoolboys to take this photo. The Overend sisters were also very widely travelled. There was a photo there of Naomi Overend toting what looked like a Kodak Folder camera in Croatia in 1928.  William     Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  The Airfield estate, which was also a family farm, has now been turned into a wonderful agricultural education and research centre. There were a lot of school tours when I was there last Friday. I had to get past a hoard of schoolboys to take this photo. The Overend sisters were also very widely travelled. There was a photo there of Naomi Overend toting what looked like a Kodak Folder camera in Croatia in 1928.  William     ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3357411'>More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted September 12, 2017 Share #10211  Posted September 12, 2017 Interesting history William.  I don't have anything ready for the next round so if anyone wants to post please go ahead.  Regards  dunk  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted September 12, 2017 Share #10212  Posted September 12, 2017 Thanks Dunk. In this case I need the make and model and the coach builder.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  William Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  William ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3357463'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 12, 2017 Share #10213  Posted September 12, 2017 William,   Pedant Alert  The Silver Ghost belonging to the Overend family must have been earlier or a Phantom I. The Ghost production finished in 1925 in the UK and 1926 in Springfield, Mass. We have a 1926 Springfield Piccadilly Coupé in the family. Astonishingly even by this date, the cheapskate first owners did not order the optional front brakes.  I am going to guess by the quality of the fittings that your mystery car may also be a Rolls Royce, maybe a 25/30 from about 1937.  Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted September 12, 2017 Share #10214  Posted September 12, 2017 Dear Wilson  Don't worry about pedantry on the Leica Forum. It is one of the rocks on which we stand. The car is described as a Rolls Royce 20, but was often called a 'Silver Ghost'. It is pictured in the article about the Overends linked below and there is a reference to a Silver Ghost engine. You will also like the Austin Tickford pictured in the article.  http://www.dundrumtaneygathering.com/dundrum-in-the-fifties---david-rowell.html  As for my photo above, the car is not British, but the coachwork is from a British firm. I hope that helps. You are right about the quality of the vehicle which was absolutely outstanding.  William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hiles Posted September 12, 2017 Share #10215 Â Posted September 12, 2017 The Peugeot reference could also have included pepper grinders (world's best IMO). Â Is the new red car a Mercedes Benz? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted September 12, 2017 Share #10216 Â Posted September 12, 2017 The Peugeot reference could also have included pepper grinders (world's best IMO). Â Is the new red car a Mercedes Benz? Â And corkscrews. No, it is not a Mercedes. I will give it one more go, before I start giving nationality clues. I have already said that the coach builder is British, but the car is not. Â William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 12, 2017 Share #10217  Posted September 12, 2017 The big Mercedes Benz cars after the early 1920's, became unpopular for twisty British roads (tarmac covered sheep tracks). Their steering became too heavy, when they changed from beaded edge high pressure tyres to low pressure balloon/well based tyres. To some extent the same applies to Silver Ghosts. They are much nicer to drive on beaded edge tyres, which is what they were designed for. I quite often get to drive a 1911 London to Edinburgh model which with its short chassis, skimpy thin alloy bodywork and narrow tyres is a delight to drive. The '26 Piccadilly Coupé with well based tyres is hard work on a twisty road.  Looking at the steering wheel, I am going to guess a Hispano Suiza, either a K6 or J12.  Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted September 12, 2017 Share #10218 Â Posted September 12, 2017 Thanks Wilson. I hope you enjoyed the article. The image of Letitia Overend double parking her Rolls Royce in the narrow main street of Dundrum Village in order to visit the butcher's shop is one I can relate to, as I grew up nearby. Her car must have been one of the good handling ones as she was able to drive it into her 90s. Â As for the red car in my photo above, it is French with coachwork by the English company Coachcraft. It is from the mid to late 1930s. Any more thoughts on the car model? Â William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 12, 2017 Share #10219  Posted September 12, 2017 On very close inspection, I think I might see the controller for a Cotal electrically operated pre-selector box. Now since our ex-Coco Chanel Figoni and Falaschi bodied Delahaye 135S had that, I am going to guess that it might be a 135 or 165 Delahaye. However of course, the Talbot Lago's also used to use those gearboxes, given that Anthony Lago owned Talbot Lago, Cotal and Wilson Gearboxes in the UK, it might be a Talbot Lago 150S but it looks a little heavy for one of those, so I will go for the Delahaye.  The RR 20 HP cars are much lighter to drive, as their 3.5L engine weighs about half the Silver Ghost engine's weight. They are charming, if somewhat leisurely to drive. A cruising speed of about 35 to 40 MPH is about right.  Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted September 12, 2017 Share #10220 Â Posted September 12, 2017 I'm looking forward to seeing complete photos of the car which I will no doubt not be able to identify even with full pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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