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It not only looks like an Avanti but it is the Avanti II; I didn't say that Loewy was a succesful car designer but he is an design icon. I personaly do not connect really with this Avanti II more than that is is a car that stands out in the crowd but not necessarily in a good way. So over to John.

 

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This next mystery car doesn't really have any distinguishing characteristics or details which might enable even the most knowledgable 'car geeks' to identify it, so I'm highlighting the one feature that sets it apart from other, more normal cars of the era- you'll note that the gentleman's shoulders are almost as wide as the entire body of the car.

 

If noone can name the manufacturer, I'll settle for the name of the class of vehicles these type of cars belong to.

 

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Awfully close, Wilson. So close in fact that I'll accept your guess as the correct solution because it clearly illustrates knowledge of the type of car it represents.

 

When the first Woods Mobilette 'prototype' was introduced in 1910 it established an entirey new but curiously short-lived category of cars with small engines for economy and in almost all cases only space for two, most often arranged in tandem, hence the name "Cyclecars".

 

Believe it or not, during the relatively brief period of time between 1910 and America's entry into WW 1, more than 200 manufacturers of Cyclecars cranked out these things in the US. Price killed the concept however. In 1913 a Ford Model A could be bought for US $ 450, whereas the Twomby for instance, the car shown above & immediately below sold for $395. Hardly any of the 200+ marques survived WW1 as makers of cyclecars.

 

As an aside, that's Alain de Cadenet in the white linen jacket talking to the interesting, knowledgable and enthusiastic owner / restorer of the Twomby.

 

Thank you Wilson, and it's your turn.

 

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Here is your next one. I may be incommunicado for a day and bit or so due to travelling. 

 

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fun fact regarding the BMW 507 Loewy story: Albrecht Goertz was a student/ intern of Loewy. Even though Loewy's car creations can't be called beauties, some of the Studebakers are noteworthy for their quirkiness and just being different. I wouldn't buy one but they kinda look 'cool' to me.

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You are thinking along the right lines but rarer than any of these. Concentrate on the Indy link! The founder gave Bugatti his first lessons on building good engines. Later cars were re-badged Hispanos. 

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Here is the radiator badge. I have blanked out the initials otherwise just too easy for this eponymous company. 

 

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EB missing? For Etablissements Ballot?
 
Ballot Berline RH3? Totally out of my depth here and guessing!
 
Mike

 

Mike, 

 

You might be out of your depth but you have got it, a Sedanca de Ville bodied Ballot RH3. This is the last true Ballot, with later ones just being re-badged Hispano Suizas (and maybe no worse for that). This one has a 2.9L straight eight engine, which puts out a pretty feeble 75 BHP. When I first saw it, I wondered about the spindly brakes but with only 75 HP, maybe they were just about enough, for the French anyway. 1920's and early 30's French sporting or higher powered cars always seem lacking in the braking department, compared with contemporaneous Britsh, German and Italian cars. Below is a picture of this car . The brake drums are plain cast iron with no fins or other cooling facility. 

 

Some years ago on a historic car test day at Goodwood, I jumped out of a 1933 Alfa 8C-2600 Monza, which has great brakes, into a friend's Bugatti Type 51, with a 190 BHP 2.3L DOHC straight eight supercharged engine but still the original cable operated brakes. Now this is a very fast car in a straight line. I thought I had killed myself, when I got towards the end of the Lavant straight at around 110 to 120MPH, I leant on the brake pedal, only to have apparently nothing happen. Fear lent strength to my right leg and I rammed the pedal towards the floor, at which point all four wheels locked up and I slowed down in a very amateurish series of bunny hops, with the ferocious axle tramp. When I pulled into the pits white and shaking, my "friend" said "oh I should have warned you the brakes are a bit odd" - thanks!

 

Your turn . 

 

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On the no brakes front, not an uncommon story - I've had a few "change of underwear" moments... getting my friend's 1902 Pierce onto 2 wheels was one of them!  Admittedly at only 20 mph or so...

 

OK, I've been going through the old family albums and have found the following of a friend with his car. Probably not too challenging, although even I'm struggling on model!  [edit: Nailed it, all the details are in the album]

 

Baz01.jpg

 

Any idea on location?

 

Good luck!

 

Mike

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