stuny Posted March 28, 2014 Share #6201 Posted March 28, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) The radiator shape suggests Panhard–Levassor from the early 20th century, Maybe even the 1908 GP car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wlaidlaw Posted March 28, 2014 Share #6202 Posted March 28, 2014 The radiator shape suggests Panhard–Levassor from the early 20th century, Maybe even the 1908 GP car. Stuart, Correct. This is the one in Cité de L’Automobile (Schlumpf Museum). It is in much better cosmetic order than the one I drove but I suspect like many of the cars at Mulhouse, will have sadly deteriorated to being a non-runner. I think that amazingly all three of the works cars have survived. I drove the sister car on a very bumpy and rather damp North Weald Aerodrome. The 12.8L engine has an amazing amount of torque for a car weighing just over 1000kg and I was getting wheelspin over the bumps in top gear. It had some brakes but not a lot and on concrete, you can’t put it sideways to slow it down or you risk pulling the beaded edge tyres off their rims, even pumped up to 55 psi. It would actually be easier to drive on the poor surfaces of 100 years ago. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2558345'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted March 28, 2014 Share #6203 Posted March 28, 2014 Thank you. Let's move ahead a few decades. I intentionally fouled up the middle of the steering wheel. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2558586'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 28, 2014 Share #6204 Posted March 28, 2014 A very left field guess because I don’t think any were made in LHD but an Alfa Romeo T33 Periscopa? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted March 29, 2014 Share #6205 Posted March 29, 2014 Sticking with your baseball metaphor, strike one. Other guesses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Taylor Posted March 29, 2014 Share #6206 Posted March 29, 2014 Looks like a 1911 Chev. hood mascot Hank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted March 30, 2014 Share #6207 Posted March 30, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hank - Are you looking at a different photo than I posted? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted March 30, 2014 Share #6208 Posted March 30, 2014 I'll go with: Bizzarrini P538 Spyder, I think about '68 to '70 vintage.. If that's indeed what it is, then the hot air exhaust duct in the front lid is the clue that allowed me to identify it. JZG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted March 30, 2014 Share #6209 Posted March 30, 2014 John Well done, and I'm not surprised you got it. Your turn. These are at the Simeone Museum in the outskirts of Philadelphia. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2559586'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 30, 2014 Share #6210 Posted March 30, 2014 I am not surprised about the heat vents on the bonnet. We looked at getting a Bizzarrini 5300 for long distance historic racing (the Nurburgring Old Timer Marathon etc), as they are very quick and handle well. We were warned that you needed extra thick heat proof boots to race them, as the front bulkhead reached over 300º from the exhaust manifolds that run virtually against it, because the engine is mounted so far back for good weight distribution. We decided to give it a miss. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted March 31, 2014 Share #6211 Posted March 31, 2014 Wilson, Everything you say about the front-engined Bizzarrini GT Coupe is absolutely true, except the mystery car Stuart posted and which was correctly identified as the P538 Spyder is a mid-engined sports-racer with the engine behind the driver. The vents on top of the front lid served to allow hot radiator-air to escape, hence the tall windshield so the driver wouldn't catch it all in his face - Photo #1. The GT Coupe appears to be the car you describe, with the engine indeed mounted a ways back in the chassis. Photo #2. In its day, most buyers actually complained more about the awkward driving position than the heat. A huge aluminum box covering the engine / bellhousing intruded into the foot wells, and even though the driver sat in the customary place behind the steering wheel, his legs had to be splayed at an alarming and utterly unnatural angle in order to operate the foot controls. Most Italian 'Super-cars' are designed like that to this day. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2559641'>More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted March 31, 2014 Share #6212 Posted March 31, 2014 The next puzzle is a car which, at the time of its introduction, was called the most beautiful car ever created. The design virtually constitutes the basis for modern sports cars as we knew them for a long time after WW II. Good Luck, JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2559658'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 31, 2014 Share #6213 Posted March 31, 2014 Is that the 1938 Alfa Romeo 6C 2300B Mille Miglia Spyder with body by Carozzeria Touring? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted March 31, 2014 Share #6214 Posted March 31, 2014 Not completely & exactly accurate, but so close that it clearly demonstrates full recognition of the marque, model year / era, type of chassis, coach builder and most other important, defining characteristics, that I think you should be awarded the Ribbon. It's actually a '39 Alfa-Romeo 6C 2500 SS Berlinetta Aerodynamica. Spotted at last year's Alfa-Romeo Club of America Nat'l. Convention in the S.F. bay area, and a Concours class winner. Over to you, JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2559807'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 31, 2014 Share #6215 Posted March 31, 2014 This was the car below that I was thinking of and wondered if someone had replaced the very ugly bonnet clips with much prettier recessed straps instead. These Alfas attracted the sexiest bodywork of their era. Usually somewhat lighter than the Figoni and Falaschi or Saoutchik bodywork on Delages, Talbot Lagos and Delahayes of the same time. We have the 1940 De Mola bodied 6C 2500B Spyder (originally built in Brussels on a 6C1750 chassis and changed to an unused 1939 6C2500B chassis in 1947-8), usually known as Miss Swoopy, it is another contender for one of the period’s most beautiful cars. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2559844'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted March 31, 2014 Share #6216 Posted March 31, 2014 I'm going to guess this is the 1940 De Mola bodied 6C 2500B Spyder. What do I win? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 31, 2014 Share #6217 Posted March 31, 2014 I'm going to guess this is the 1940 De Mola bodied 6C 2500B Spyder. What do I win? Stuart, No that one is the 1938 Alfa Romeo 6C 2300B Mille Miglia Spyder. I have only got a thumbnail of the De Mola with me. My decent photos of it are sitting on a hard drive in France but as that is where the car is, I could easily take more. Below is the thumbnail of the De Mola, which does not really do it justice as you cannot see the beautifully shaped bonnet with curved louvres and the curved pointed tail. It also makes the front wings look a lot more bulbous than they really are. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2559952'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted April 1, 2014 Share #6218 Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) It's most striking, though just a touch like a cartoon car from this angle. I would like to see more images when you have a chance to shoot more. Your turn, by the way. Edited April 1, 2014 by stuny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 1, 2014 Share #6219 Posted April 1, 2014 OK, here’s your next one. I have driven one of these terrifying bolides - scary! Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2560441'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted April 1, 2014 Share #6220 Posted April 1, 2014 From the UK? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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