scott kirkpatrick Posted March 16, 2010 Share #181 Posted March 16, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Over in ther German language part of the forum, Gertrud Waechter reported she had fixed the issue by turning off auto power off and setting the display brightness to “standard“. When she subsequently returned to the original settings the fix persisted. YMMV etc. but worth trying out. That sorta works, or at least it helps things. I switched to Auto Power OFF, then switched the camera off, then on, set to Auto Power off at 1 min. Went to work reviewing only on the LCD, with occasionally zooming, and continued for about 2 min with no interruptions. Later I switched the camera on, fiddled with menus for half a minute, started to review pictures and it switched off. Restored with a shutter button half-press. Last night it was shutting off every 1 minute, so this is an improvement, but it is unpredictable. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wlaidlaw Posted March 16, 2010 Share #182 Posted March 16, 2010 Hands up - I apologise for being flippant - it is serious - and I can see the red edge on my 21 pre-asph too... Forgiven! Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted March 16, 2010 Share #183 Posted March 16, 2010 That sorta works, or at least it helps things. I switched to Auto Power OFF, then switched the camera off, then on, set to Auto Power off at 1 min. Went to work reviewing only on the LCD, with occasionally zooming, and continued for about 2 min with no interruptions. Later I switched the camera on, fiddled with menus for half a minute, started to review pictures and it switched off. Restored with a shutter button half-press. Last night it was shutting off every 1 minute, so this is an improvement, but it is unpredictable. scott Both my M9s with the new FW are now switching off after a short while when scrolling through the menu or reviewing/zooming pictures, even if auto power off is set to 'off'. Looks like a FW bug to me. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekF Posted March 16, 2010 Share #184 Posted March 16, 2010 The second issue you mentioned is not an issue. The previous version of the firmware also flashed the red light when powered on. Regards Peter Peter, I'm not talking about powering on the camera, I'm talking about when the camera is OFF and the shutter button is pressed, the LED blinks. I'm pretty sure this never happened before the firmware update (although comment #122 suggests it was happening for that poster before the update) and might explain why my freshly-charged battery is already drained by 25% since this morning just by sitting in my bag. I sent a request to Leica USA and they told me they had forwarded my info to a technical advisor. Hopefully this isn't some hardware issue that will require warranty service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 16, 2010 Share #185 Posted March 16, 2010 Clearly some do, some don't. I have just been playing with the menu for a few minutes without glitch. I did not use the full 5 min power off that my camera is set to, I fear. I'll try that later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodor Heinrichsohn Posted March 16, 2010 Share #186 Posted March 16, 2010 Over in ther German language part of the forum, Gertrud Waechter reported she had fixed the issue by turning off auto power off and setting the display brightness to “standard“. When she subsequently returned to the original settings the fix persisted. YMMV etc. but worth trying out. I tried and it did not cure the problem. Seems that the red edge problem and this new bug are here to stay until the next firmware update. The improvements are nevertheless welcome and worthwhile. Teddy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 16, 2010 Share #187 Posted March 16, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Peter, I'm not talking about powering on the camera, I'm talking about when the camera is OFF and the shutter button is pressed, the LED blinks. I'm pretty sure this never happened before the firmware update (although comment #122 suggests it was happening for that poster before the update) and might explain why my freshly-charged battery is already drained by 25% since this morning just by sitting in my bag. I sent a request to Leica USA and they told me they had forwarded my info to a technical advisor. Hopefully this isn't some hardware issue that will require warranty service. Mine does not do that. Might it be camera-specific and linked to the premature shut-off problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_tanaka Posted March 16, 2010 Share #188 Posted March 16, 2010 The new firmware os A-OK here. Leica addressed my little M9 gripe (slow card formatting) so I'm an even happier owner today. Shot 20 or so frames with the new firmware, varous lenses, all seems well Just adding one more data point. Thank you Leica! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekF Posted March 16, 2010 Share #189 Posted March 16, 2010 Mine does not do that. Might it be camera-specific and linked to the premature shut-off problem? Not sure, I haven't read every message in this thread, but it seems that there are quite a few people complaining about the premature shut-off issue. FWIW, I have mine set to a minute. Those who have it set longer (or off) may not know that they have this problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35mmSummicron Posted March 16, 2010 Share #190 Posted March 16, 2010 Not sure, I haven't read every message in this thread, but it seems that there are quite a few people complaining about the premature shut-off issue. FWIW, I have mine set to a minute. Those who have it set longer (or off) may not know that they have this problem. My M9 did that before (fw 1.002) and still now with fw 1.116) I don't think its a big deal; my M8 does not do this, but this "behavior" doesnt seem to impede battery life....at any rate I have 3 .a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted March 16, 2010 Share #191 Posted March 16, 2010 Mine does not do that. Might it be camera-specific and linked to the premature shut-off problem? A couple of points. First the light flashing only means that the camera is writing to Memory, nothing more. Also I notice that the camera does not shut off when the switch is turned off, it continues to process what ever it was doing before the switch was moved. If you press the shutter release during processing, but not before the camera is really off, it may force a write to Memory, thus causing the red light to flash. I can see from a system point of view that this is not a problem, because after the processing/writing is complete the camera shuts off, and everything is saved. I have seen that soon after I turn off the camera, the light still flashes for some time. If after a short time I press the shutter release the light flashes a couple of times. However if I wait for a couple of minutes, the pressing of the shutter release does nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 16, 2010 Share #192 Posted March 16, 2010 I have seen that soon after I turn off the camera, the light still flashes for some time. If after a short time I press the shutter release the light flashes a couple of times. However if I wait for a couple of minutes, the pressing of the shutter release does nothing. I cannot produce a flash even in that scenario. I just tried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted March 16, 2010 Share #193 Posted March 16, 2010 Not sure, I haven't read every message in this thread, but it seems that there are quite a few people complaining about the premature shut-off issue. FWIW, I have mine set to a minute. Those who have it set longer (or off) may not know that they have this problem. @ Derek & Jaap, I don't think that the premature shut-off issue is related to the blinking of the red LED in off-position. As posted by someone a few pages before, I'm absolutely sure of having noticed the LED issue even before updating the software. After the update I also have the shut-off issue Best regards Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekF Posted March 16, 2010 Share #194 Posted March 16, 2010 Just got a reply from Leica USA regarding the shutoff and blinking LED issues I reported earlier in this thread —*they emailed me a copy of the firmware and asked me to try again, adding that they have not received any other reports of this problem from other users. As soon as I get the chance, I'll try the update again and report back... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted March 16, 2010 Share #195 Posted March 16, 2010 I have seen that soon after I turn off the camera, the light still flashes for some time. If after a short time I press the shutter release the light flashes a couple of times. However if I wait for a couple of minutes, the pressing of the shutter release does nothing. This is not my experience: the red led flashes only once and in my case it is certainly not related to the writing of data. This happened even before the update and also happens after shutting down the camera for more than an hour... This is not of any concern to me since I still can take pictures Best regards Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cldp Posted March 16, 2010 Share #196 Posted March 16, 2010 Excellent firmware update. I like the improved look of the playback, it's more like the M8 now but I still have one problem: when I check the focus of an image at one pixel [most zoomed in] everything looks soft. I have to stay one click back to confirm focus. My M8 used to look great at one pixel. In all other respects the M9 is outstanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted March 16, 2010 Share #197 Posted March 16, 2010 The red edge effect is not just visible in white walls. It can be a problem even when there is practically no white anywhere in the picture (example 1 - 21mm Elmarit pre-ASPH, 6-bit coded, lens recognition "Auto", ISO 160, f/8, FW 1.116, shot Monday) Moving to the edge, the red value INCREASES even as the green/blue values are decreasing. Probably time for me to send some examples to Leica tech support, letting them know it is still there with 1.116 and asking what gives. I do notice that the "rainbow sky" effect http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/107297-rainbow-skies.html when exposures are for shaded foreground areas has been diminished significantly. Looks like Leica or Jenoptik have rebalanced the blue curve as it approaches sensor saturation to avoid the tone reversal. (example 2 - also shot Monday with FW 1.116). Not perfect, but probably at least back to M8 levels. An undocumented fix... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/115466-m9-fw-v1116-available/?do=findComment&comment=1261921'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 16, 2010 Share #198 Posted March 16, 2010 @ Derek & Jaap,I don't think that the premature shut-off issue is related to the blinking of the red LED in off-position. As posted by someone a few pages before, I'm absolutely sure of having noticed the LED issue even before updating the software. After the update I also have the shut-off issue Best regards Andreas There is not a shred of proof of course, but it might be a situation of: "if the camera does one thing, after the update it will do the other as well" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmiro Posted March 16, 2010 Share #199 Posted March 16, 2010 Just a tip: It is much more efficient to meter manually and compensate than to perform the juggling trick with the shutter button and the wheel. If the shutter is set to soft I get an accidental exposure half the time. (I keep the camera to my eye doing this) Sometimes I wish Leica had left the AE function off altogether and made this a digital M6... Jaap - fully agree. I was shooting in the Wigmore Hall last night - intense light, highly polished string instruments, black costumes, potentially a nightmare. However, by having the camera in manual, you're back in control. The histogram gives you the immediate check you need and once you've got the settings right you can shoot without worrying about exposure - it's just focus and frame that matter.... Thanks Chris and Jaap i use Leica from 3 months and use also a Nikon D3s (Nikon DSLR from many years) and aperture priority is very useful and fast than manual management; in my opinion, maybe due for my nikon shooting preference, the situation with complicated light can be managed rapidly with wheel of compensation.... Bye.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 16, 2010 Share #200 Posted March 16, 2010 There is no comparison between a computerized matrix measuring system with a database of tens of thousands of reference images and a simple semi-spot system that relies on the brain of the photographer. I can assure you that on a Leica M camera manual exposure is not only faster, it is more accurate too, as long as the photographer understands the basics of exposure. I was testing the outside window compensating system on a D700 last week and the owner was astounded that the M9 on manual performed exactly as accurately and exactly as fast by just switching to manual... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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