Ecaton Posted March 1, 2010 Share #1 Posted March 1, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I picked up a brand new M9 yesterday and found two tiny marks/blemishes in its steel gray paint. I know it sounds ridiculous and the camera will get more blemishes from use, but somehow it irritates me with a USD 7000 item (have 2 black M8 and they came with perfect finish). What would you do, go shooting and forgetting about it, or...? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/114072-new-m9-with-marks-in-the-gray-paint/?do=findComment&comment=1243240'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 1, 2010 Posted March 1, 2010 Hi Ecaton, Take a look here New M9 with marks in the gray paint. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
SJP Posted March 1, 2010 Share #2 Posted March 1, 2010 Ask the store for a discount or replacement I would think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted March 1, 2010 Share #3 Posted March 1, 2010 mine had defects similar to this and they changed it over in a week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted March 1, 2010 Share #4 Posted March 1, 2010 If you send it in for engraving they will replace the top plate with the new engraved one. At least they did on mine, so I figured they don't take off a used top plate, engrave it and reinstall it. They take a new one, engrave it and put that one instead. It's a 172 Euro operation or there about. But apart from that it's annoying, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 1, 2010 Share #5 Posted March 1, 2010 It would irritate me, even knowing I would be marking it far more extensively in the time to come. Seeing the scarcity of M9s, I would get the factory to exchange it - they manage quite a good turnaround in Solms nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted March 1, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted March 1, 2010 Thank you all, am surprised about the consensus, was concerned I would be to picky.I'll bring it to the dealer today and hope to get either the cover or whole camera replaced asap. Besides FF there is so much refinement about the M9 when comparing it to the M8, Leica really did a remarkable job with evolutionary improvements, but I'm preaching to the choir....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry joeng Posted March 1, 2010 Share #7 Posted March 1, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Certainly not acceptable. I would sent it back to the dealer and ask for another new M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted March 1, 2010 Share #8 Posted March 1, 2010 Besides FF there is so much refinement about the M9 when comparing it to the M8, Leica really did a remarkable job with evolutionary improvements, but I'm preaching to the choir....... Which improvements do you mean, I wonder? Removal of the at-a-glance battery/frame count LCD? Removal of the sapphire glass? No more silver chrome finish? Perhaps you're thinking of the desperately slow card formatting and image display and zoom or maybe it's the unwanted red in wide-angle images which really makes it for you... I agree with you about the better refinement in the M9 compared to the (earliest) M8 but most of that improvement came in the later part of the M8/M8.2's life. The M9 was rushed to market and it shows. As for your paint flaws, of course, take the camera back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtZ Posted March 1, 2010 Share #9 Posted March 1, 2010 If you send it in for engraving they will replace the top plate with the new engraved one. At least they did on mine, so I figured they don't take off a used top plate, engrave it and reinstall it. They take a new one, engrave it and put that one instead. It's a 172 Euro operation or there about. But apart from that it's annoying, yes. NO! They don't need to remove the top plate, they engrave the camera without removing it. The guy who engraved my camera called me because my signature has a very thin line which makes engraving difficult, so he asked me if that line was very important or not. We talked for a while and I asked him how the engraving was done. Among other things, he said engraving is done with the top plate on. Cheers . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 1, 2010 Share #10 Posted March 1, 2010 Bit grumpy today, Mark? One could mention the thickening of the IR filter, the larger sensor, the ISO menu the soft release mode, etc. as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtZ Posted March 1, 2010 Share #11 Posted March 1, 2010 I picked up a brand new M9 yesterday and found two tiny marks/blemishes in its steel gray paint. I know it sounds ridiculous and the camera will get more blemishes from use, but somehow it irritates me with a USD 7000 item (have 2 black M8 and they came with perfect finish). What would you do, go shooting and forgetting about it, or...? The first grey cameras had a fragil coating. They could get scratched easily just with the finger nails on normal use -and normal nails! (I've seen someone really angry in September complaining at his dealer...). Apparently, Leica has changed the coating for a more resistent one. You may have an older camera. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted March 1, 2010 Author Share #12 Posted March 1, 2010 Bit grumpy today, Mark? One could mention the thickening of the IR filter, the larger sensor, the ISO menu the soft release mode, etc. as well. Thanks Jaap for answering this one. And since I never used a 8.2, the shutter of the M9 is definitely improved as compared to the classic M8, no need to code every lens, info screen (yes, I like it), etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted March 1, 2010 Author Share #13 Posted March 1, 2010 Funny enough I started 2 threads literally at the same time. One with a "M9 issue" (negative thread) and another one with a question about which wide angle lenses on the M9 (positive thread). The first one got 10 responses and 118 visits within a short period of time, the second one exactly 2 responses and 79 visits. I leave the interpretation to the psychologists, but it is an interesting Monday morning observation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noah_addis Posted March 1, 2010 Share #14 Posted March 1, 2010 Funny enough I started 2 threads literally at the same time. One with a "M9 issue" (negative thread) and another one with a question about which wide angle lenses on the M9 (positive thread). The first one got 10 responses and 118 visits within a short period of time, the second one exactly 2 responses and 79 visits. I leave the interpretation to the psychologists, but it is an interesting Monday morning observation. Perhaps it's because there are just so many 'which lens' threads? And there has been lots of discussion about the Zeiss vs. Leica 18mm lenses. Just a thought, though I'm not saying there isn't a natural attraction to negativity around here... Back on topic, personally, I'd keep the camera and just suck it up. I agree it shouldn't be an issue with an expensive camera, but really I'd be more worried if it works, has a vertical line problem, etc. But then again...I don't worry too much about camera cosmetics. If you use it properly, it's going to look like this in a few months anyway:D Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/114072-new-m9-with-marks-in-the-gray-paint/?do=findComment&comment=1243391'>More sharing options...
jsjxyz Posted March 1, 2010 Share #15 Posted March 1, 2010 I would treat it as birthmark Neither do I worry too much about camera cosmetics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted March 1, 2010 Share #16 Posted March 1, 2010 I agree it shouldn't be an issue with an expensive camera, but really I'd be more worried if it works, has a vertical line problem, etc. This camera is definitively very funny. But then again...I don't worry too much about camera cosmetics. If you use it properly, it's going to look like this in a few months anyway:D Does anyone has a similar image of a weared-out silver camera? I don't like the paint finish. The black paint of some MP models is beautiful (lacquered), but the matte black paint finish looks very similar to the black chrome of the original M8, and I prefer the chrome finish. My favorite is silver chrome. I would like to see this option for the M9.2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted March 1, 2010 Share #17 Posted March 1, 2010 Going back to the original question, I wouldn't bother asking for a replacement. The marks are annoying but I value my time enough that even a single trip to my dealer for such a purpose seems like a colossal waste of such a valuable commodity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 1, 2010 Share #18 Posted March 1, 2010 I wonder if those not interested in cosmetics would feel the same way about a new and very expensive car. Suppose it was mechanically perfect, but scratched noticeably in several places. Just ignore? For me, there's a difference between cosmetic damage I do and damage the factory or dealer does before I have a chance...regardless of mechanics. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted March 1, 2010 Share #19 Posted March 1, 2010 I wonder if those not interested in cosmetics would feel the same way about a new and very expensive car. Suppose it was mechanically perfect, but scratched noticeably in several places. But it's not a car and the scratches are hardly noticeable. As I stated earlier, it all comes down to how much it bothers you and how much you value your time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 1, 2010 Share #20 Posted March 1, 2010 If you plan to resell it i would ask for a replacement right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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