rami G Posted February 18, 2010 Share #21 Posted February 18, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just want to mention again- the demand for a non-compressed full bit Raw option- I think Leica ought to allow utilizing the full potential of the sensor, at the cost of speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lct Posted February 18, 2010 Share #22 Posted February 18, 2010 ...The existing M8 firmware is very well established and stable after all. There are no more new production cameras, or new issues with the mature M8... The "shutter fault" is hardly acceptable IMHO and has been acknowledged by Leica: There is a bug on the firmware which causes the alert "shutter fault". This problem should be gone with the next firmware which is hopefully coming out soon. M8 shutter fault Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoersch Posted February 18, 2010 Share #23 Posted February 18, 2010 I remember someone saying that a digital rangefinder was technically not possible. After the Epson RD1 was on the market someone said a FF rangefinder was technically not possible. And then there was someone who said that the discreet mode of the M8.2 could not be implemented in the M8 via firmware because of the different shutter. Someone mentioned that the S2 was developed mainly so its technology could be used on the R10. Who was it that said in March 2009, when M8.2 sales were low, that there would be no FF M9 in the near future? And who said that there is no room for the M9 lens selection menu in the M8? Now, I really do believe everything Leica says in public, but it's such a pity I can't remember names at all... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtZ Posted February 18, 2010 Share #24 Posted February 18, 2010 The "shutter fault" is hardly acceptable IMHO and has been acknowledged by Leica:M8 shutter fault J'adore ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 18, 2010 Share #25 Posted February 18, 2010 ...I really do believe everything Leica says in public, but it's such a pity I can't remember names at all... Tongue-in-cheek syndrom? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rami G Posted February 18, 2010 Share #26 Posted February 18, 2010 Btw, Mark, your work is truly stunning. I can't imagine Leica devoting even one more single man-hour towards the M8.The product cycle is done and the product discontinued. As much as I'd like some tweaking, as a new M8 owner, I bought in assuming that there would be no further improvements. As far as believing Leica or their corporate statements, I'd put about as much faith in theirs as I would Canon's or Nikon's. They'll say what they have to say when they need and do what they need when they need to. Mark Mark Tomalty Photography Montreal Canada Travel Landscape Stock FineArt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest m8-fan Posted February 18, 2010 Share #27 Posted February 18, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I can't imagine Leica devoting even one more single man-hour towards the M8.The product cycle is done and the product discontinued. I agree. Fine enough that we got the auto iso feature just as an example. No one added any feature to my Nikon D100 for the last seven years or so. So I think they did (and will do) a great job at Leica with the last firmware update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoskeptic Posted February 18, 2010 Share #28 Posted February 18, 2010 This would be nice, I suppose, but then I've never used a coded lens...I wonder what I've been missing for three years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rami G Posted February 18, 2010 Share #29 Posted February 18, 2010 I agree. Fine enough that we got the auto iso feature just as an example. No one added any feature to my Nikon D100 for the last seven years or so. So I think they did (and will do) a great job at Leica with the last firmware update. Both my RD-1 and my Kodak slr/c got a major firmware upgrade after they have been out of cycle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashrafazlan Posted February 18, 2010 Share #30 Posted February 18, 2010 I agree. Fine enough that we got the auto iso feature just as an example. No one added any feature to my Nikon D100 for the last seven years or so. So I think they did (and will do) a great job at Leica with the last firmware update. But nikon never promised continued support for the D100, and doesn't really carry the "legendary" support that is often associated with Leica Doesn't carry the Leica price tag either But really though, more updates and features are a good thing last time I checked. I don't see why anyone wouldn't welcome them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted February 18, 2010 Share #31 Posted February 18, 2010 Haven't Leica already said there'll be an M8 firmware upgrade? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neila Posted February 18, 2010 Share #32 Posted February 18, 2010 I haven't been a frequent visitor to the Forum - in fact my M8 is on firmware 1.201 which, I assume, is rather out of date! However, apart from a focussing issue (which is not a software/firmware fault) my camera operates perfectly. I don't wish to update anything just in case I introduce a bug I don't want. However, having forked out such a large chunk of change on the M8, I would be very disappointed if Leica no longer supported it - I realise this is not being said directly here, but it's implied. I didn't even realise the M8 had been discontinued until I logged in yesterday. It still feels like a new camera to me!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtZ Posted February 18, 2010 Share #33 Posted February 18, 2010 I haven't been a frequent visitor to the Forum - in fact my M8 is on firmware 1.201 which, I assume, is rather out of date! However, apart from a focussing issue (which is not a software/firmware fault) my camera operates perfectly. I don't wish to update anything just in case I introduce a bug I don't want. However, having forked out such a large chunk of change on the M8, I would be very disappointed if Leica no longer supported it - I realise this is not being said directly here, but it's implied. I didn't even realise the M8 had been discontinued until I logged in yesterday. It still feels like a new camera to me!! neila, You really should update your firmware to the latest version 2.004 The new version is the most stable, has less bugs, supports SDHC cards, better WB, Discreet mode and Auto ISO among others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigSplash Posted February 18, 2010 Share #34 Posted February 18, 2010 Patrick writing, testing and implementing firmware is not simple, inexpensive or a small thing at all. In fact Stefan Daniel has already said that it was only possible with the M9 because the firmware was all new and expense is the reason that the extra feature you want was not retrofitted to the M8. He has told us that Leica does intend to continue firmware development for the M8 so perhaps some features will be added in the future. That does not guarantee that every wished for feature is possible or practical. Realistically you would have to expect that an update for the M9 would be a higher priority for Leica. The existing M8 firmware is very well established and stable after all. There are no more new production cameras, or new issues with the mature M8. Anything that gets added to its existing features is more likely to flow from the M9 developments, not a standalone project, in my opinion. Actually Stefan said that there would be M8 firmware available shortly..that was in October / November. timframe He also indicated that M9 extra features maybe available to M8 users at a price. Since then I believe that there has been no further information from Solms..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted February 18, 2010 Share #35 Posted February 18, 2010 ...because they are busy on more important things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicafan! Posted February 18, 2010 Share #36 Posted February 18, 2010 I have been told by Leica that there is a new firmware coming for the M8 to fix the Shutter Fault issue. So no need to campaign, it's coming. Let's wait and see what's in it.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtomalty Posted February 19, 2010 Share #37 Posted February 19, 2010 are you new to Leica? I don't think you are new to digital photography. What a weird thing to say... Nope. Not new to Leica. Don't own much,now, apart from an M8 but in the past have owned pretty much everything in the R and M line that was in production for last 15 years. Not new to digital and not new to photography, either. It's been my sole source of income for over 30 years. My comment was only my opinion but I don't think it weird to think that Leica wouldn't devote any more time to M8 firmware issues given that they have much on their plate at the moment. That having been said, I'd gladly be wrong and load new firmware into my M8 Mark Mark Tomalty Photography Montreal Canada Travel Landscape Stock FineArt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rami G Posted February 19, 2010 Share #38 Posted February 19, 2010 Nope. Not new to Leica. Don't own much,now, apart from an M8 but in the past have ownedpretty much everything in the R and M line that was in production for last 15 years. Not new to digital and not new to photography, either. It's been my sole source of income for over 30 years. Mark Mark Tomalty Photography Montreal Canada Travel Landscape Stock FineArt yes I had a look at your work. pretty stunning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocheung Posted February 19, 2010 Share #39 Posted February 19, 2010 When using the discreet mode together with continous shooting it is "normal" to get the "Shutter Fault"-message. It would be nice if Leica would adress this problem in the next firmware update, by disabling the discreet mode when the camera is set for continous shooting. Also the lousy White balance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted February 19, 2010 Share #40 Posted February 19, 2010 Also the lousy White balance. Really? Wow... I have to say my M8 performs WB setting pretty damn well, with only minimal adjustments required 99% of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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