doublep Posted February 7, 2010 Share #1 Posted February 7, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Here's a question for you: I am looking for a 50mm lens for my M9. I shoot colour and enjoy a contrasty look and especially smooth and creamy bokeh at wide apertures. Which, of all the 50mm lens out there (be it Leica, Zeiss or CV), would be the lens that you would recommend ? (I don't have enough funds for a Noctilux but can consider just about anything else) Thanks for your feedback! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 Hi doublep, Take a look here A question for you: Bokeh 50 ?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
doublep Posted February 7, 2010 Author Share #2 Posted February 7, 2010 I should add that I would really appreciate if you could post samples ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 7, 2010 Share #3 Posted February 7, 2010 You should be happy with the last Summilux-M 50/1.4 pre-asph and the last Elmar-M 50/2.8 as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 7, 2010 Share #4 Posted February 7, 2010 (edited) Agree : Summilux pre asph; probably (I haven't it) also the new Summarit 2,5. No experience with no-Leica lenses... but if you dream of a Noctilux, why not the CV f 1,1 ? Probably bokeh is not "creamy" as the "old" Summilux but, wow, 1,1 is always 1,1... Edited February 7, 2010 by luigi bertolotti Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted February 7, 2010 Share #5 Posted February 7, 2010 Easy. 50 Lux ASPH. Probably the best 50 ever. Meets all your criteria and then some. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 7, 2010 Share #6 Posted February 7, 2010 Easy. 50 Lux ASPH... Cannot agree on that as far as OOF is concerned. Not ugly at all but a bit 'grainy' at f/1.4 and f/2.0. Too sharp for me at f/2.8 and slower. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted February 7, 2010 Share #7 Posted February 7, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) There's actually many interesting 50mm Leica lenses. I would say all of them look great in image quality, some distinguish them self. One very good place to look to see which "look" you like is Flickr.com There would be all of them. 50mm. Summicron-M f/2.0 version I, II, III, IV 50mm Summilux-M f/1.4 version ASPH and non-APH 50mm Noctilux-M f/0.95 and f/1.0 (two versions) 50mm Elmarit-M f/2.8 different versions 50mm Summarit-M f/2.5 If you want contrasty color, new lenses and ASPH is most likely more what you are looking for. But the overall look, that is what is interesting. Manu forum members here have several 50mm lenses, old/new versions of the same, etc. It's not that easy to find one that is much better than the others. They are all so great (perhaps except the collapsible 50mm, but some prefer even that). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted February 7, 2010 Share #8 Posted February 7, 2010 Hmmm, certainly my photos are no great demonstration of bokeh, though I can't find the "grainy" OOF at F/1.4 - left 50-lux pre-asph, right 50-lux asph: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/111890-a-question-for-you-bokeh-50/?do=findComment&comment=1216242'>More sharing options...
lct Posted February 7, 2010 Share #9 Posted February 7, 2010 Couple of old comparos with the R-D1: http://tinyurl.com/cb3qaj http://tinyurl.com/dxuyzj http://tinyurl.com/cmo75b http://tinyurl.com/d5o58q The 50/1.4 asph is certainly one of my favourite Leica lenses. Travels often with me and the 28/2. But smoothness is not the first word springing to my mind when i think of bokeh. YMMV. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pophoto Posted February 7, 2010 Share #10 Posted February 7, 2010 (edited) Interestingly Steve Huff talked (reviewed) about the 50cron and I think Overgaardcom even commented this as well (fanboy waves) It's an inexpensive lens, relatively speaking, but without comparing directly to a lux or Noct, it's a lens that you can walk away with a smile, or big grin It is also a small lens and with a discreet lens hood built in, which I haven't been needing to use! Seriously, it is a good lens, and just about every other lens talked about here, 50s isn't a lens that really has a bad apple (did I start up something?), something you could consider. Bokeh and the like, contrast and colors become subjective! Sorry I can't help with the posting an example at the moment though! Edited February 7, 2010 by Pophoto Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted February 7, 2010 Share #11 Posted February 7, 2010 Interestingly Steve Huff talked (reviewed) about the 50cron and I think Overgaardcom even commented this as well (fanboy waves) It's an inexpensive lens, relatively speaking, but without comparing directly to a lux or Noct, it's a lens that you can walk away with a smile, or big grin It is also a small lens and with a discreet lens hood built in, which I haven't been needing to use! Seriously, it is a good lens, and just about every other lens talked about here, 50s isn't a lens that really has a bad apple (did I start up something?), something you could consider. Bokeh and the like, contrast and colors become subjective! Sorry I can't help with the posting an example at the moment though! Shh, don't tell anybody how good the 50mm Cron is, it might go up in price Here's an example of 50mm Cron bokeh at f/2.0 and at ca. 1 meter focus distance: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted February 7, 2010 Share #12 Posted February 7, 2010 Uli's pictures do visually demonstrate that the bokeh of the ASPH is actually better than that of the pre-aspherical -- and also better than that of the Summicron! Case closed. The old man from the Age of the 5cm Elmar Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted February 7, 2010 Share #13 Posted February 7, 2010 50 f/1.4 ASPH for smoothest bokeh in that focal length. As Uli and Thorsten demonstrate, the 50 'cron and 50 pre-ASPH 'lux lenses tend to produce bright-ring "glitter" and eye-crossing "busy"-ness to the backgrounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheewai_m6 Posted February 7, 2010 Share #14 Posted February 7, 2010 (edited) the 50 lux asph is definitely 'smoother'. there's a consistent colour throughout the blur. also the out of focus part flow into each other smoother. the pre asph has more defined blurrs. it really depends what you like, i like both. if anything, i prefer the pre asph a little more. but that's just me. thanks overgaardcom for the two comparisons Edited February 8, 2010 by cheewai_m6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_m Posted February 8, 2010 Share #15 Posted February 8, 2010 Buy the 50 Lux ASPH. Its probably the best lens for the money in the Leica stable- even though it is not cheap. Hope you can find one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_m Posted February 8, 2010 Share #16 Posted February 8, 2010 And here is a sample - 50 lux ASPH and M8. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/111890-a-question-for-you-bokeh-50/?do=findComment&comment=1217237'>More sharing options...
AlbertoDeRoma Posted February 8, 2010 Share #17 Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) I posted these pics on another thread, but I'm loving all these 50mm bokeh samples, and I think it may be worth re-posting. M8 50mm 'cron (version 3 or 4 - sorry, I haven't done all my homework on it yet.) The photos were taken at f/2 (or perhaps 1/2 a click above that - I do miss having the info in the EXIF.) Alberto Edited February 8, 2010 by AlbertoDeRoma Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted February 8, 2010 Share #18 Posted February 8, 2010 Alberto - a nice illustration, taken along with Thorsten's table setting, to show that "bokeh" can change a lot with lighting, subject matter, and the relative distances between the main subject and the background - not just the optics. The 50 'cron is one of those that can vary from "pretty nice" (your mannikin) to "neutral" (your dog) to "pretty cluttered" (That banquet room - IMHO). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublep Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share #19 Posted February 8, 2010 Thanks for your great responses. Now I just need to choose between a Pre-Asph 'Lux and the newer ASPH version. Dilemma... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frc Posted February 8, 2010 Share #20 Posted February 8, 2010 Cron 50 latest version @ f4 approx. Perhaps not a brilliant picture, but a bit of an idea of the oof. area when not in close up. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/111890-a-question-for-you-bokeh-50/?do=findComment&comment=1217805'>More sharing options...
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