colonel Posted February 28, 2011 Share #1 Posted February 28, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) hi, is there any difference between this and the new Leica elmarit 28mm, or is it just a name change when the company changed ? I have been offered a second hand one in good condition for £695, which is considerably less then the new price for £1,399. Seems an ideal focal length for Leica M8 walkabout Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Hi colonel, Take a look here LEITZ ELMARIT-M 28mm. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
lct Posted February 28, 2011 Share #2 Posted February 28, 2011 Depends upon the vintage of your lens. What's its serial number? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightwrangler Posted February 28, 2011 Share #3 Posted February 28, 2011 asph or pre-asph might make the difference. Check out the lens-wiki. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share #4 Posted February 28, 2011 Thx Serial is 3155162 Don't know if its asph or not Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightwrangler Posted February 28, 2011 Share #5 Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) Looks like type 4 non-asph. "ASPH" is always written on the front of the lens, so have a look. If it's not there, its not an asph-lens. Seller should know this as well. For an asph-Elmarit the price is too good to be true anyway. Another interesting place for info about Leica-lenses: Leica 28mm M Mount Lens Price and Information Guide Edited February 28, 2011 by Royal_Corona Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share #6 Posted February 28, 2011 thanks alot. yes looks like 1981 I think I'll pass, although he has indicated he'll take an offer Might get a new one Looks like type 4 non-asph. "ASPH" is always written on the front of the lens, so have a look. If it's not there, its not an asph-lens. Seller should know this as well. For an asph-Elmarit the price is too good to be true anyway. Another interesting place for info about Leica-lenses: Leica 28mm M Mount Lens Price and Information Guide Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickp13 Posted February 28, 2011 Share #7 Posted February 28, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) i believe the pre-asph versions of the elmarit 28 have a lot to offer. one of the summaries i referred to before buying a version 3 is here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/45854-praise-mandler-lenses.html take a look. you can always move to the current asph version later if desired. greetings from hamburg rick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share #8 Posted February 28, 2011 i believe the pre-asph versions of the elmarit 28 have a lot to offer. one of the summaries i referred to before buying a version 3 is here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/45854-praise-mandler-lenses.html take a look. you can always move to the current asph version later if desired. greetings from hamburg rick thanks amazing detail. really can't expect more ok, I'm still thinking about it I might make him an offer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted March 1, 2011 Share #9 Posted March 1, 2011 thanksamazing detail. really can't expect more ok, I'm still thinking about it I might make him an offer The only significant differences are the size and handling the Asph is smaller you need small hands to be comfy with the asph, cause it is small. The second is subjective, try before you buy, there are some new Asph's about, an exception... Noel Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 1, 2011 Share #10 Posted March 1, 2011 It is a decent price for a vers. III . is the version I have, and I find it a pretty good lens - and I do own a Summilux 24 and a Summicron 35 asph that it has to contend with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 1, 2011 Share #11 Posted March 1, 2011 The 28/2.8 v3 (# 11804) is far from being as sharp as the asph at full aperture though. The latter is the sharpest 28 i've ever used and is quite a bargain for the price imho. Only cons are bokeh which is a bit harsh and contrast which is very high in the first place. But what is a con today will become a pro tomorrow when sensors have a wider dynamic range presumably. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted March 1, 2011 Share #12 Posted March 1, 2011 The 28/2.8 v3 (# 11804) is far from being as sharp as the asph at full aperture though. The latter is the sharpest 28 i've ever used and is quite a bargain for the price imho. Only cons are bokeh which is a bit harsh and contrast which is very high in the first place. But what is a con today will become a pro tomorrow when sensors have a wider dynamic range presumably. Hi lct The OP may have a film camera and can use POTA to tame contrast problems. If the OP shoots brick walls and inspects the mortar pointing in the full frame corners then the 28mm f/2 cron is preferable, but this wont show on more normal photos? The type III is built to a high standard, but the 49mm filters make it a big lens. I'm not sure if its hoods intrudes in the finder, too long ago, I never notice intrusion. Noel Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 1, 2011 Share #13 Posted March 1, 2011 I'm lucky enough to use the 28/2 as well. Ma favorite 28 ever. But much more expensive than the little Elmarit asph needless to say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted March 1, 2011 Share #14 Posted March 1, 2011 I'm lucky enough to use the 28/2 as well. Ma favorite 28 ever. But much more expensive than the little Elmarit asph needless to say. Hi lct It is also only E46 filter, and smaller than the non asph Elmarits, :envy: . The CV f/3.5 28mm in LTM is small and cheap but escalating in $ as it is no longer in production. At f/5.6 most of the modern lenses are pretty close, but your cron will be ok on brick walls in the extreme corners, : envy: again, sigh... Noel 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 1, 2011 Share #15 Posted March 1, 2011 If we're getting into "my 28's smaller than yours":rolleyes: then the LTM Kobalux 28.3.5 is tiny and takes some beating. (The 28/6.3 Hektor beats 'em all for size though.) Pete. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 1, 2011 Share #16 Posted March 1, 2011 ...It is also only E46 filter, and smaller than the non asph Elmarits... The Summicron has about the same size as the Elmarit v4 if memory serves. The latter has a very good reputation as well BTW but i have no experience with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 1, 2011 Share #17 Posted March 1, 2011 If we're getting into "my 28's smaller than yours":rolleyes: then the LTM Kobalux 28.3.5 is tiny and takes some beating. (The 28/6.3 Hektor beats 'em all for size though.)... Are those smaller than the M-Rokkor 28/2.8? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted March 1, 2011 Share #18 Posted March 1, 2011 Are those smaller than the M-Rokkor 28/2.8? I think the cron is just shorter then the type IV Elmarit, both E46 filter. The Kobalux will or may foul the internal baffles on the later Canon LTM cameras, it does on mine, ok on Leicas though. Dont know about the M-Rokkor size exactly... Noel Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted March 1, 2011 Share #19 Posted March 1, 2011 As Jaap says, the lens in question is a v. 3 (NOT v.4!) 28 Elmarit. As described in my old post here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/45854-praise-mandler-lenses.html The v.3 is by NO means "far from being as sharp as the asph at full aperture..." Less contrast, perhaps, and a different kind of fuzziness at the edges. But the resolution is high over a lot of the frame. It is my favorite of all the Elmarit 28s as regards imaging characteristics. Its main drawback is that it is also the largest (having been designed for use with an external finder before the 28 lines became "built-in") and thus blocks the finder more than the later 28 designs. Colonel, Leica has made Elmarit 28mm lenses for about 46 years, in 5 fairly different versions. The same is true for most of their other lenses - do not assume the same name means the same lens ("Elmarit" simply designates an f/2.8 lens) because they are redesigned about once a decade (with a few exceptions). 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 1, 2011 Share #20 Posted March 1, 2011 ...The v.3 is by NO means "far from being as sharp as the asph at full aperture..." Less contrast, perhaps, and a different kind of fuzziness at the edges. But the resolution is high over a lot of the frame... You know it better than i do. Last time i used it must be 2 decades ago and i preferred the Minolta then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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