Chroma project Posted September 19, 2009 Share #1  Posted September 19, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello.  I love the silky smooth and very quiet soft+discreet shutter mode, but one thing makes me a bit disappointed and it is that one can not lock the light measurement with this otherwise, very good function. I must say that the shutter sound is extremely nice and soft! for me it sound exactly as my M7 ..thanks Leica   I am a bit curious how you think about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lars_bergquist Posted September 19, 2009 Share #2 Â Posted September 19, 2009 It won't trouble me. The feature was pretty worthless, because you could not use it for a whole series of exposures (and then delete it when finished). And guesswork compensation is even worse. When I encounter tricky lighting, I change over into manual. Â The old man from the Age of Guesswork Exposure (now fortunately past) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmanley Posted September 19, 2009 Share #3  Posted September 19, 2009 Hello.  I love the silky smooth and very quiet soft+discreet shutter mode, but one thing makes me a bit disappointed and it is that one can not lock the light measurement with this otherwise, very good function. t.  Do you mean that you can't expose for the floor or grass, press the shutter half-way, recompose and shoot? That's the way I work. It would be a real problem if I can't do that. Is there any way to program the M9 so you can work that way?  Tina  Tina Manley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo_Lorentzen Posted September 19, 2009 Share #4 Â Posted September 19, 2009 Tina, Â Not with the soft shutter which release the shutter at the exposure lock point to minimize vibrations. (I shoot the way you do, expose, lock, compose) This feature might be most interesting at very low light, where manual general is my fall back anyway because stuff start to get dark. Â . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotomiguel Posted September 19, 2009 Share #5 Â Posted September 19, 2009 For me it's not a problem. Or use manual exposure or the new and easy exposure compesation with the wheel. This is a very good new funtion with no lock exposure. We have just to learnt the best way to take the most of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
padraigm Posted September 19, 2009 Share #6 Â Posted September 19, 2009 Is the re-cocking motor the same as the M8?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmanley Posted September 19, 2009 Share #7  Posted September 19, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Whew!! I downloaded the manual and it says that in the main menu you can go to Advance and set the Shutter to Standard instead of Soft or Discreet. Then it will work the same way as always. Thank goodness.  Tina  Tina Manley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 19, 2009 Share #8 Â Posted September 19, 2009 ....Not with the soft shutter which release the shutter at the exposure lock point to minimize vibrations... So there is no way to memorize metering in discreet mode really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo_Lorentzen Posted September 19, 2009 Share #9 Â Posted September 19, 2009 ltc.. that is correct, in discreet/soft mode the camera shoots at the normal exp lock point.. memorize exposure by setting manual exp. its a M. ha ha. Â However, in discreet mode only (no soft) it works just like the M8.2 with a exposure lock point. Â . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 19, 2009 Share #10 Â Posted September 19, 2009 ltc.. that is correct, in discreet/soft mode the camera shoots at the normal exp lock point.. memorize exposure by setting manual exp. its a M. ha ha... Thanks Bo but it's painful to say the least. We could memorize metering 30 years ago with the Leicameter but we cannot do it in discreet mode today. It's so easy to achieve with low-end cameras that i don't understand why Leica is still behind on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 19, 2009 Share #11  Posted September 19, 2009 Thanks Bo bit it's painful to say the least. We could memorize metering 30 years ago with the Leicameter but we cannot do it in discreet mode today  You can lock the exposure in discreet mode. That works the same way as normal, except that the shutter is only recocked when the shutter button is released.  You cannot lock the exposure in soft mode as the shutter fires as soon as you slighty press the shutter button - there's no button indent to get exposure lock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 19, 2009 Share #12 Â Posted September 19, 2009 ...However, in discreet mode only (no soft) it works just like the M8.2 with a exposure lock point... Oops looks like i'm missing something here as i don't know what this soft thing is sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 19, 2009 Share #13 Â Posted September 19, 2009 Oops looks like i'm missing something here as i don't know what this soft thing is sorry. Â The sort release is like a hair trigger. You only need to give the button the slightest touch and the camera will take the photograph. There's no need to really depress the shutter. It works in a similar way to the self timer on an M8, except that it fires the shutter rather than starts the self timer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 19, 2009 Share #14 Â Posted September 19, 2009 Ah yes got it, thanks Steve and Bo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted September 19, 2009 Share #15 Â Posted September 19, 2009 For me, the soft release mode is one of the best features of the new M9. It effectively turns the M9 into an M6 and is all the better for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 19, 2009 Share #16 Â Posted September 19, 2009 ... We could memorize metering 30 years ago with the Leicameter ... lct-- I think you've got it now. A new function based on user requests, per Daniel interview. Â 30 years ago we were in manual. We can still do the same if we want, but with TTL metering. Â "Soft" is a strange name, but as good as any, I guess. It's accomplished by firing the shutter with the "second contact point," otherwise used for exposure lock. Very elegant; just move 'fire' from third to second contact and eliminate the 'lock' function. Â Just right for those who feel it's just right for them. And it can be turned off for the rest of us. Â IIRC, Stefan says in the video that it took a little getting used to, but that he likes it now. (And he had a slight surprised look, as if to say he was surprised that it turned out to be such a useful function.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 19, 2009 Share #17 Â Posted September 19, 2009 Thanks Howard. Sounds great in manual mode but i prefer AE lock personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noah_addis Posted September 19, 2009 Share #18 Â Posted September 19, 2009 I love the soft release function. I always shoot in Manual so no need for exposure lock, and to me the M8 shutter always seemed like it had too much travel. Â Problem solved--but you can still set it the old way if you prefer, so there's no real downside. Â During my short test the soft release seemed to make a huge difference in the feel of the camera, though I don't know how it will translate to actual handholding ability. I'll leave my M9s permanently set to soft + discreet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted September 19, 2009 Share #19 Â Posted September 19, 2009 So there is no way to memorize metering in discreet mode really? Â No not at all. With discreet only set you can still lock the meter reading by a second stop press. Â It is with SOFT shutter release feature that the meter reading can NOT be locked. That mode, whether you use it with the discreet mode or not, activates the shutter at the second stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted September 19, 2009 Share #20 Â Posted September 19, 2009 To avoid confusion, here's how it works. There are 4 settings in the menu for advancing the shutter: Â "Standard" "Soft" "Discreet" "Discr. & Soft" Â You can lock the exposure in either "Standard" mode or "Discreet" mode. You can't lock exposure when you're in "Soft" mode or in "Discreet & Soft" mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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