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Hello.

 

I love the silky smooth and very quiet soft+discreet shutter mode, but one thing makes me a bit disappointed and it is that one can not lock the light measurement with this otherwise, very good function.

I must say that the shutter sound is extremely nice and soft! for me it sound exactly as my M7 ..thanks Leica

 

 

I am a bit curious how you think about it.

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It won't trouble me. The feature was pretty worthless, because you could not use it for a whole series of exposures (and then delete it when finished). And guesswork compensation is even worse. When I encounter tricky lighting, I change over into manual.

 

The old man from the Age of Guesswork Exposure (now fortunately past)

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Hello.

 

I love the silky smooth and very quiet soft+discreet shutter mode, but one thing makes me a bit disappointed and it is that one can not lock the light measurement with this otherwise, very good function.

t.

 

Do you mean that you can't expose for the floor or grass, press the shutter half-way, recompose and shoot? That's the way I work. It would be a real problem if I can't do that. Is there any way to program the M9 so you can work that way?

 

Tina

 

Tina Manley

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Tina,

 

Not with the soft shutter which release the shutter at the exposure lock point to minimize vibrations. (I shoot the way you do, expose, lock, compose) This feature might be most interesting at very low light, where manual general is my fall back anyway because stuff start to get dark.

 

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ltc.. that is correct, in discreet/soft mode the camera shoots at the normal exp lock point.. memorize exposure by setting manual exp. :D its a M. ha ha...

Thanks Bo but it's painful to say the least. We could memorize metering 30 years ago with the Leicameter but we cannot do it in discreet mode today. It's so easy to achieve with low-end cameras that i don't understand why Leica is still behind on that.

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Thanks Bo bit it's painful to say the least. We could memorize metering 30 years ago with the Leicameter but we cannot do it in discreet mode today

 

You can lock the exposure in discreet mode. That works the same way as normal, except that the shutter is only recocked when the shutter button is released.

 

You cannot lock the exposure in soft mode as the shutter fires as soon as you slighty press the shutter button - there's no button indent to get exposure lock.

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Oops looks like i'm missing something here as i don't know what this soft thing is sorry.

 

The sort release is like a hair trigger. You only need to give the button the slightest touch and the camera will take the photograph. There's no need to really depress the shutter. It works in a similar way to the self timer on an M8, except that it fires the shutter rather than starts the self timer.

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... We could memorize metering 30 years ago with the Leicameter ...

lct--

I think you've got it now. A new function based on user requests, per Daniel interview.

 

30 years ago we were in manual. We can still do the same if we want, but with TTL metering.

 

"Soft" is a strange name, but as good as any, I guess. It's accomplished by firing the shutter with the "second contact point," otherwise used for exposure lock. Very elegant; just move 'fire' from third to second contact and eliminate the 'lock' function.

 

Just right for those who feel it's just right for them. And it can be turned off for the rest of us.

 

IIRC, Stefan says in the video that it took a little getting used to, but that he likes it now. (And he had a slight surprised look, as if to say he was surprised that it turned out to be such a useful function.)

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I love the soft release function. I always shoot in Manual so no need for exposure lock, and to me the M8 shutter always seemed like it had too much travel.

 

Problem solved--but you can still set it the old way if you prefer, so there's no real downside.

 

During my short test the soft release seemed to make a huge difference in the feel of the camera, though I don't know how it will translate to actual handholding ability. I'll leave my M9s permanently set to soft + discreet.

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So there is no way to memorize metering in discreet mode really?

 

No not at all. With discreet only set you can still lock the meter reading by a second stop press.

 

It is with SOFT shutter release feature that the meter reading can NOT be locked. That mode, whether you use it with the discreet mode or not, activates the shutter at the second stop.

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To avoid confusion, here's how it works.

There are 4 settings in the menu for advancing the shutter:

 

"Standard"

"Soft"

"Discreet"

"Discr. & Soft"

 

You can lock the exposure in either "Standard" mode or "Discreet" mode. You can't lock exposure when you're in "Soft" mode or in "Discreet & Soft" mode.

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