marcusperkins Posted September 18, 2009 Share #1  Posted September 18, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello All,  Put a few M9 files through Lightroom yesterday, all files similarly affected.  Details: Uncompressed RAW Lenses: coded/recognised and uncoded Lightroom 2.5 All gamut warnings off Mac G5 All other files (Canon/M8) not affected.  This problem does not appear on my newer Mac intel laptop - also Lightroom 2.5  Any ideas? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/97221-gremlins/?do=findComment&comment=1040650'>More sharing options...
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jackal Posted September 18, 2009 Share #2 Â Posted September 18, 2009 and through ACR ? Â first you need to determine if the issue originates from the software or the software/DNG marriage, or the M9 itself Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted September 18, 2009 Share #3 Â Posted September 18, 2009 This is the new "feature" of Lightroom 2.5 on Power Macs. It has been discussed in an other thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusperkins Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share #4  Posted September 18, 2009 Hi Jackal  ACR 2.4 (on the G5) is fine.  Apple's built operating system RAW converter on the Intel machine is fine also.  This is strictly between the M9 and Lightroom 2.5 on my G5  Photos taken on a display M9 after the camera was launched. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusperkins Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share #5 Â Posted September 18, 2009 (edited) Thanks Adli - good to know I'm not the only one. Â Anybody have any idea where this thread is? Edited September 18, 2009 by marcusperkins Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandymc Posted September 18, 2009 Share #6  Posted September 18, 2009 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/98723-lr-2-5-a.html  Sandy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted September 18, 2009 Share #7 Â Posted September 18, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) is there a reason why people use lightroom over ACR when its about 5 times slower ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted September 18, 2009 Share #8 Â Posted September 18, 2009 is there a reason why people use lightroom over ACR when its about 5 times slower ? Â They are not comparable. Â Lightroom covers the whole workflow. ACR is a raw converter. If you use ACR, you will need other applications in addition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlancasterd Posted September 18, 2009 Share #9  Posted September 18, 2009 This is a known problem with LR 2.5 which afflicts various computers when RAW files from various cameras are opened with this version  The only 'cure' at the moment is to revert to LR 2.4, which can be downloaded at:  Mac: Adobe - Lightroom : For Macintosh : Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 2.4 - English, French, German Win: Adobe - Lightroom : For Windows : Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 2.4 - English, French, German Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 18, 2009 Share #10 Â Posted September 18, 2009 I think those of us who still have G5 machines (I have a dual 2.3GHz PowerMac in the UK) and my wife has a G5 iMac, have to recognise that, excellent though these machines still are, the writing is on the wall in relation to their ability to run current versions of software. My PowerMac, even on an older version of Capture One (about 4.5 I think), gave a warning message that it might not run properly. In fact it seemed to work OK. Â Given all the problems Snow Leopard is currently causing (printer drivers, TWAIN, scanner drivers, external hard drive auto wake up, etc, etc) it seems a bit at the moment, as if we Mac users are caught between a rock and a hard place. I phoned Applecare yesterday with a number of Snow Leopard problems relating to lock ups caused, according to the Syslog, by TWAIN and a number of issues on the HP drivers update 2.1. They had NO answers at all and could only say they were working on it. Â Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted September 18, 2009 Share #11 Â Posted September 18, 2009 is there a reason why people use lightroom over ACR when its about 5 times slower ? Â For workflow. I don't see how you can process 800 pictures and choose the 40 you want to use via Adobe Camera Raw. Â If one should go that way, it would be using Lightroom for workflow and selecting, then open the selected files in ACR or C1. Â Likewise, I use Lightroom for DMR workflow and take out few select files that need tender care and run them through FlexColor which does the best job on DMR files. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted September 18, 2009 Share #12  Posted September 18, 2009 Hello All, Put a few M9 files through Lightroom yesterday, all files similarly affected.  Details: Uncompressed RAW Lenses: coded/recognised and uncoded Lightroom 2.5 All gamut warnings off Mac G5 All other files (Canon/M8) not affected.  This problem does not appear on my newer Mac intel laptop - also Lightroom 2.5  Any ideas?  Looks like some anti-terror law in effect to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusperkins Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share #13 Â Posted September 18, 2009 (edited) Ha - anti-terror law indeed! Â Thanks for all your help everybody - I'll 'Upgrade' to LR 2.4 for the time being. Â Â Edit: OK, just upgraded from 2.5 - 2.4 Those of you that choose this path, remember the artifacts will remain until your previews are updated. Edited September 18, 2009 by marcusperkins Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted September 18, 2009 Share #14  Posted September 18, 2009 For workflow. I don't see how you can process 800 pictures and choose the 40 you want to use via Adobe Camera Raw.   ok, i see  I only process the shots i want (around 20-30 on a normal shoot)  I used Bridge as a giant contact sheet to select them.. its quicker as well IMO  They all have to come into PS to have proper work done to them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danyves Posted September 18, 2009 Share #15 Â Posted September 18, 2009 Agree, Bridge + ACR 4.6 is quicker than Ligthroom, without idiosyncracies. Just you may want to finish with Photoshop in some rare cases. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusperkins Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share #16 Â Posted September 18, 2009 Problems aside, lightroom is far superior and much quicker than photoshop for working on files - unless of course there is a requirement to combine images etc. However there is a quick link from lightroom to Photoshop if that kind of work is required. Â Like all these things, it takes a little time to learn properly, but once in, it is a wonderful application. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted September 18, 2009 Share #17 Â Posted September 18, 2009 I will recommend reading this on workflow, no matter if you use Aperture, Lightroom or any other. John Thawley, who wrote this, manages to get his files wrapped up and sent to clients, webpages, blogs and picture archives before he takes the plane home to the family. And that is how it should be. Lots of photographers prefer finishing all in one program as Lightroom. That reguires a workflow, as well as equipment and ways of handling files so you don't need to doctor things i Photoshop. Â Wrapping Your Head AroundWorkflow - Journal - Motorsports Photographer ~ John Thawley :: Photography of American Le Mans, Grand Am, SPEED World Challenge Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 18, 2009 Share #18 Â Posted September 18, 2009 I cannot agree that Photoshop is just for doctoring shots, Thorsten. I find it essential to get the exact look I had in my head when I took the shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted September 18, 2009 Share #19 Â Posted September 18, 2009 I cannot agree that Photoshop is just for doctoring shots, Thorsten. I find it essential to get the exact look I had in my head when I took the shot. Â Agree with that. I rarely use LR because I find it easier to use Bridge-ACR-PS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted September 18, 2009 Share #20 Â Posted September 18, 2009 Agree with that. I rarely use LR because I find it easier to use Bridge-ACR-PS. Â Me too. I have tried LR and and I always end up going back to Bridge/ACR/PS. File organization is easier for me and workflow faster. But this is another of those things that is very subjective. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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