Jamie Roberts Posted September 10, 2009 Share #21 Posted September 10, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Nice to see what can be done with good light! Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Hi Jamie Roberts, Take a look here M9 - 1st (quick test) portrait. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
noah_addis Posted September 10, 2009 Share #22 Posted September 10, 2009 Nice work, rather better way to judge than the 'guys in a camera shop with neon/fluoro/whatever light' stuff that people are getting antsy about I don't know, if you can make a nice picture in a camera shop with crap mixed lighting, then think of what you can do when the light is nice! Very nice portrait by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newyorkone Posted September 10, 2009 Share #23 Posted September 10, 2009 Amazing shot. I know it is a web-sized JPEG, but the level of detail and microcontrast looks like MF to me. Now I'm really bummed that I sold my 90 APO Summicron. It was too long on the M8, but looks to be the perfect portraiture lens on the M9... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted September 10, 2009 Share #24 Posted September 10, 2009 Ronald, this picture is a piece of cake, I don't think it is the M9 I think it's your skill. An outstanding potrait beautifully balanced and toned The ability of using a lens telling the camera it is another one could lead to some very interesting experiments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share #25 Posted September 10, 2009 Nice to see what can be done with good light! Thanks! Jamie, also a dull day can help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Day Posted September 10, 2009 Share #26 Posted September 10, 2009 [ATTACH]161181[/ATTACH] M9, early firmware, 90mm Apo-Summicron (notice: camera accidently manually set at 50mm!) p.s. Checked my tests and it can well be the recent 50 Summicron at 2.0 or 2.8 but I still think it was the 90. This is a very nice photograph! Thanks for sharing the photo. Makes me glad I ordered an M9! Best, Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share #27 Posted September 10, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Now I'm really bummed that I sold my 90 APO Summicron. It was too long on the M8, but looks to be the perfect portraiture lens on the M9... Get the 75 cron and you´ll have a much better over all solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamilsukun Posted September 10, 2009 Share #28 Posted September 10, 2009 Ronald, the best image I've seen to date shot with the M9! Fully agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 10, 2009 Share #29 Posted September 10, 2009 I'm not convinced that's true. The pixel size/area is the same as the M8 sensor, it's just a larger sensor. ... but with MORE pixels, anyway ... imagine to take EXACTLY the same frame with M8 and M9 (for instance, with 35 mm on M8 - 50 mm on M9 - same distance to subject) : you'll get the same picture, one composed by 10 Mpixel, the other by 18---> higher resolution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted September 10, 2009 Share #30 Posted September 10, 2009 Also the first shot from the M9 that I've liked! Truly beautiful image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted September 10, 2009 Share #31 Posted September 10, 2009 I know it is a web-sized JPEG, but the level of detail and microcontrast looks like MF to me. Don't wanna turn this into another sort of discussion, but try taking a look at some MF output from any of the recent state-of-the-art MF backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted September 10, 2009 Share #32 Posted September 10, 2009 I'm not convinced that's true. The pixel size/area is the same as the M8 sensor, it's just a larger sensor. That is a spot-on assessment. Here is an image from a now "antiquated" M8 classic and 75 Cron, captured at f/2.8 on the street (i.e. no "please hold still for me sir"). I up-sampled the image in C1 Pro to ~ 16 x 24 and have shown the 100% crop. The resolution of the sensor in the M9 is not better than an M8, there simply are more pixels to play with. I have never been disappointed with the performance of the resolution of the M8 sensor coupled with Leica glass. The M9 is not going to change this. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/96157-m9-1st-quick-test-portrait/?do=findComment&comment=1027971'>More sharing options...
jackart Posted September 10, 2009 Share #33 Posted September 10, 2009 This (image on the first page) is hypnotizing image!!! Jaak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted September 10, 2009 Share #34 Posted September 10, 2009 Don't wanna turn this into another sort of discussion, but try taking a look at some MF output from any of the recent state-of-the-art MF backs. ...or a drum scanned 4x5 or 8x10 RVP-50 chrome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsonkirk Posted September 10, 2009 Share #35 Posted September 10, 2009 This is the first image I've seen that suggests there's quite a bit to be gained from the M9. Of course we'd all like to see the resolution in a print, or in a much larger file on our monitors. But the detail here & the subtlety of tonal transitions is impressive! I'd assumed that s 10 MP sensor with no AA filter was nearly as good as it gets, this side of larger format; but apparently not so. The most important thing is that the pixel size/pitch has remained the same, in contrast to 'improvements' by adding more but smaller pixels. It's the tonal transitions that interest me most. This, not sharpness, was what impressed me most when I moved from Canon with 1.5 crop to 5D. It can't show up much in this portrait @ 72 ppi, but I'm guessing it's there. The portrait is a lovely one. Though your model is more beautiful, the portrait style reminds me of Walker Evans' portrait of Allie Mae Burroughs, 1936. Also Paul Strand's portrait of a French boy (can't remember exactly where/when). Thank you for posting this. Kirk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 10, 2009 Share #36 Posted September 10, 2009 This is the first image I've seen that suggests there's quite a bit to be gained from the M9. Of course we'd all like to see the resolution in a print, or in a much larger file on our monitors. But the detail here & the subtlety of tonal transitions is impressive! I'd assumed that s 10 MP sensor with no AA filter was nearly as good as it gets, this side of larger format; but apparently not so. The most important thing is that the pixel size/pitch has remained the same, in contrast to 'improvements' by adding more but smaller pixels. It's the tonal transitions that interest me most. This, not sharpness, was what impressed me most when I moved from Canon with 1.5 crop to 5D. It can't show up much in this portrait @ 72 ppi, but I'm guessing it's there. The portrait is a lovely one. Though your model is more beautiful, the portrait style reminds me of Walker Evans' portrait of Allie Mae Burroughs, 1936. Also Paul Strand's portrait of a French boy (can't remember exactly where/when). Thank you for posting this. Kirk Well said, Kirk ... the MPixel in intself is a "rude" higher resolution and no more: what really intrigues me about M9 is the combination of more pixels with 14 bit color space, on a bigger sensor (with same pixel pitch as M8, indeed) : as always, PC screen images are a poor evaluation media: but I think that if Leica has well tuned the above combination, you can expect PRINTS that at decent sizes (not 10x15 cm, of course...) really display excellent tonal transition : that's the reason for I prefer to wait a little... : prints are the final media that interest me, and I hope to read reviews (and practical examples) that confirm that this goal has been achieved: the basic specs are in the right direction, and I am still confident in Leica's people skill... we will see... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted September 10, 2009 Share #37 Posted September 10, 2009 Well said, Kirk ... the MPixel in intself is a "rude" higher resolution and no more: what really intrigues me about M9 is the combination of more pixels with 14 bit color space, on a bigger sensor (with same pixel pitch as M8, indeed). I have to say that many people have been arguing themselves blue in the face (with graphs, figures, examples and so on) for the last two years on this forum that no useful color information whatsoever is lost in the M8's compression scheme. I can barely believe how quickly people turn their coats. I love this portrait, but I absolutely fail to see how anyone can make any serious judgement about the sensor, and the supposed improvement in dynamic range and tonal transitions from a relatively small online jpeg. Jpeg compression itself makes these statements about the 14bit colorspace completely impossible. Come on people - please keep it real. A great shot of a very bewitching subject in beautifully even light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm23221 Posted September 10, 2009 Share #38 Posted September 10, 2009 Thank you Jeff for the image and explanation - well stated. You and I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted September 10, 2009 Share #39 Posted September 10, 2009 remember me some Amish attitude... well, nice shot Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share #40 Posted September 10, 2009 A photo is a photo is a photo. On the german side i said that i think my old 170,- Euro Canon AE-1 - 1.8/85 SSD- combo could do a similar shot but It´s good to know, the 8.000,- Euro Leica M9-Cron-Apo-combo can do it too. Will print this one tonight on my large format to see more than 72 ppi and i´m getting hungry to make such portraits with my old Plaubel on 13 x 18 cm film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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