markowich Posted September 12, 2009 Share #21 Posted September 12, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) After chekcing the images on an Eizo at work I realized that I had processed the files pretty badly on my laptop screen. So, they were oversharpened, noisy in the shadows and off-color.... other than that.... Anyway, I reprocessed the files using the desktop with a calibrated Eizo and replaced the picutes. You may want to check them out again. David well, not bad certainly. still no reason for raving, beats the D3x but HD3II 50 and P65 show more res. in portraits. well the mpx advantage cannot be denied. if it did pixel pinning for high iso as the P65 (maybe also the H3DII 60, which i shall get in a few weeks) it would be interesting. as it stands i shall not get back on the order list with my dealer again. p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 12, 2009 Posted September 12, 2009 Hi markowich, Take a look here S2 is a Dream. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Pituca Posted September 13, 2009 Share #22 Posted September 13, 2009 After chekcing the images on an Eizo at work I realized that I had processed the files pretty badly on my laptop screen. So, they were oversharpened, noisy in the shadows and off-color.... other than that.... Anyway, I reprocessed the files using the desktop with a calibrated Eizo and replaced the picutes. You may want to check them out again. David Thanks, David! I am working with digital imaging since 1981, and I am aware what can be achieved with imaging software. I would rather like to see an unprocessed photo in order to see what the camera can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 14, 2009 Share #23 Posted September 14, 2009 I'm not in the market for the S2, but I was impressed with the model photo, and 100% crop, in the attached commentary by Michael Reichmann at LL... Leica S2 First Impressions I'm not sure the model would like the results without some touch-up, but the detail is amazing. Look, for instance, at the eye in the crop with the photographer reflection. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjinouck Posted September 14, 2009 Share #24 Posted September 14, 2009 If you guys are interested, you can download a P40+ full size jpeg below which is quite similar to the 100% studio crop David has posted in his blog. This was shot by Japanese photographer Koji Ueda. http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/313/117/019.jpg Since I already have a full set of Mamiya lenses so the choice is quite easy, this wasn't my first post so you all know about my bias toward a detachable back due to its immense flexibility. But, as many people have pointed out, it's all about the Leica lust ... LOL I don't think that I can get any chance to do anything David has tried ... not even close, but I'll report back in any case. what has a phase one to do with the leica s2? grtz, Alex! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackart Posted September 14, 2009 Share #25 Posted September 14, 2009 Don't touch the screen, You gonna cut Your fingers! enjoy video linked Jaak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted September 15, 2009 Share #26 Posted September 15, 2009 I'm kinda glad the S2 is priced the way it is - this way I can just sit back with the M9 and enjoy your (coming) enjoyment of it without even dreaming of one for myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica007 Posted September 15, 2009 Share #27 Posted September 15, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) David, while the S2 shot on your blog is very sharp etc, can you please upload an image which shows a good tonal gradation and other IQ properties? I recently shot with Hasselblad H3DII [i think 39, with 180mm lens at a demo session] and was very pleased with the outcome. The photos had almost a film-look. The RAW files required very minimum adjustment in PS. [a sample is attached] Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/95991-s2-is-a-dream/?do=findComment&comment=1036463'>More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 15, 2009 Share #28 Posted September 15, 2009 Wow. Nice photo, too. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted September 16, 2009 Share #29 Posted September 16, 2009 i dont know about "s2 is a dream"... it can become a dream if it is actually as good as it is promised to be in leica press and presentation. personally, so far, i have a feeling and expectation that it might be really competitive to phase40 and hassi39. better than those two in image quality and handling would be a too much optimism until some real and trustable material is available. actually, this kind of camera is a serious commitment, both financial and practical, so best to experience it firs-hand. so far on paper, s2 seems to be more compact than phase/hassi. s2 doesnt seem to be a small camera and phase/hassi are not huge either (i know well the mamiya system). but on the other hand, phase/hassi are backs, which means: (a) can be used with other tech and wide cameras, ( can be exchanged with film magazine for back-up or for b/w film. it is just a belief at the moment but, if the leica lenses are really as great as they supposed to be, this will close the gap of bigger sensor size on phase/hassi (which have very good lenses in the front too). as for comparing it on websites ... it is a bit ridiculous... i would not do it even with the M9, now with full-frame and improvements... the s2 is a completely different game - it is for prints - how rich the files actually are, not how a photographer can see himself in the eye of the model, this thing looked to me more like computer game geeks playing with new game and joystick. only for serious print it has justification for its price and pace limitations compared to smaller dslr. and if taking this camera seriously, this how it should be tested and compared to other competitors. !!! so much questions about this camera... probably it is part of great expectations !!! BTW, it also looks seductively beautiful, like no other dslr. maybe it is not the key point, but photographers wanting to make good photos probably already have a good taste, so it touches :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted September 16, 2009 Share #30 Posted September 16, 2009 BTW, it also looks seductively beautiful, like no other dslr. maybe it is not the key point, but photographers wanting to make good photos probably already have a good taste, so it touches :-) Agreed. These things shouldn't matter but the S2 is a beautiful piece of industrial design. It also has a viewfinder to die for (at least by SLR standards). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted September 16, 2009 Share #31 Posted September 16, 2009 ian ... the viewfinder is a substantial element for decision. i always have troubles with SLR viewfinders for some reason, and really dont like almost all d-slr viewfinders. what is it from your experience ? very bright and clear ? roomy ? how it feels compared to a good mamiya645ii if u r familiar with ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted September 17, 2009 Share #32 Posted September 17, 2009 .... It also has a viewfinder to die for (at least by SLR standards). ARGGHHH! STOP IT! must resist... must resist... must resist... ... or is resistance futile? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted September 17, 2009 Share #33 Posted September 17, 2009 I'm loving this thread. I'll put my cards on the table and say I don't know how I'd afford this camera in the next year or three but I'm still interested. I do wonder if we are at a stage now where several larger format digital cameras produce sufficient quality for most people's applications (advertising, brochures, fine art etc)? In that case, the form factor of the S2 sets it apart from most - add weather sealing and dreamy lenses and it might find its own niche quickly. And it won't be internet pixel-peepers! I agree this is all about prints. Don. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted September 17, 2009 Share #34 Posted September 17, 2009 I'm loving this thread. I'll put my cards on the table and say I don't know how I'd afford this camera in the next year or three but I'm still interested. Likewise. I think SWMBO wants to replace her aging minivan first In a few years I'll be looking at a demo/used S2, particularly if there's no acceptable R solution and if my DMR dies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted September 17, 2009 Share #35 Posted September 17, 2009 My head has trouble getting around the fact that you could buy two new minivans for the price of one camera body! It's not as if minivans did not have some precision engineering in them - and most are weather proof, even if, like the S2, they rarely zoom.... Don. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted September 17, 2009 Share #36 Posted September 17, 2009 My head has trouble getting around the fact that you could buy two new minivans for the price of one camera body! It's not as if minivans did not have some precision engineering in them - and most are weather proof, even if, like the S2, they rarely zoom.... Don. I figure that if my car is worth more than my camera, my priorities are out of order I'm fine with the old pickup truck, not sure if SWMBO would be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted September 17, 2009 Share #37 Posted September 17, 2009 Actually, that's really funny. My main camera is worth more than my car, heck even two of my lenses cost more than my car! And if I do get the money for something like an S2, I wouldn't be upgrading my car first either. But then I haven't got a "SWMBO" just yet. Which makes me think I'd better save harder now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtomalty Posted September 17, 2009 Share #38 Posted September 17, 2009 To echo an earlier question. Did Leica allow you to leave the demo with and RAW files ? Mark Mark Tomalty Photography Montreal Canada Travel Landscape Stock FineArt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyp Posted September 17, 2009 Share #39 Posted September 17, 2009 Heck guys, an S2 with a bag of lenses is worth more than my old rag of a house Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgcd Posted September 17, 2009 Share #40 Posted September 17, 2009 ARGGHHH! STOP IT! must resist... must resist... must resist... ... or is resistance futile? Resistance appears to be more and more futile.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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